gift4tbone
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NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:12 pm

Today, during my first flight lesson. A NW A320, landed on RWY 5 at PVD. This wouldnt seem odd, except RWY 34, was the active. And I heard the NW flight request to land on 5, becuase of weight reasons. (can't remember the exact words). Any reason why?! Even the DL 762 (pats charter) landed on 34.

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burnsie28
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:28 pm

The Delta 762 as you said was a 764.

Its done a lot, especially with DC-9's
 
iowaman
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:32 pm

Maybe the A320 needed the extra runway length if it was full. Just a guess.
 
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:03 pm

Also depending on where it was coming from..if it was MSP- there would have been extra fuel because of the weather.
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:14 pm

May have needed extra length for a deferred item such as spoilers, anti-skid, etc
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burnsie28
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:59 pm

Also depending on where it was coming from..if it was MSP- there would have been extra fuel because of the weather.

Especially with prices at over $3.05 a gallon there.

As for the charter DL, you make money regardless with a charter.
 
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:39 pm

I wouldn't have mattered as to how much fuel was on it -- they can't land above the max landing weight for that situation.
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gift4tbone
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:00 am

My mistake of the 764. Never really got to know the 767 series very well.

So you say the -9s request a longer runway as well? is it just a NW thing then? (seeing as no other airline has used a -9 into PVD for years!) And why is it? bad performance on the a/c, and the pilots prefer to have more safe room? I just think its odd, becuase the 767 is a much larger and heavier a/c then an a320.

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Top 3 airports: PVD 23.9%(138 flights), PHL 14.7%(85 flights), PHX 10.2%(59 flights)
 
VEEREF
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RE: NW A320 Overweight?!

Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:22 am

Most times when you see this kind of thing it's not necessarily the runway length itself but obstacles off the runway end. max landing weights are dictated not only by runway lengths, but by obstacle clearance criteria off the end should a worst case single engine go around scenario occur.
For example:

Runway 9/27 at XYZ is 10,000ft. long. Runway 9 arrivals are permitted at max allowable landing weight due to flat land and ocean off the departure end.
Runway 27 however has hills a couple of miles off the end. While the aircraft could still land and stop on the runway at max gross weight, it could not maintain adequate obstacle celarance in the event of a single engine missed approach.
There are other factors such as wind, runway gradient and braking energy limits...etc.
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