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Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:44 am

Hey they just said on the news that an aircraft slide off the end of 4 at JFK. Any news as to what it was?

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RE: Aircraft Slides Of Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:45 am

Polar 8407 from ANC.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Of Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:48 am

alright thanks.. the runway is back in use now?
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:00 am

As of this time Port Authority are still working on the skid and JFK is having a whiteout. I doubted the runway will be reopening any time soon
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:02 am

How bad is the damage to the aircraft?
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:06 am

I just looked at the fboweb.com that all the aircrafts (Inbounds to JFK) are now circles over Groton, CT and Long Island.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:14 am

It was a Polar Air Cargo 747-200. They showed video of the plane on channel 7 Eyewitness News.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:18 am

Well the airport is basically closed so the runway is basically not in-use anyway. It is really bad here.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:22 am

The airport is not closed, there are limited departures off runway 04L, the incident was on 04R.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:24 am

There was a period of time right after the incident where JFK was closed, but they quickly moved all departures over to 4L, and that is where they are currently departing. There hasn't been an arrival in a while, though.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:15 am

Anybody know more detaisl about this?

Registration? Flight number? Heck, was is deparitng or landing? Where was it going to/from?

Did it go off the end of the runway or off to the side? If off the end, was it caught in the arrestor bed?

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:22 am

Pretty sure it was departing, and from what I've heard it seems to have gotten itself stuck in some mud off the side of the runway. I don't know any further details besides that.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:32 am

I know a couple of the United and American departures at SFO were affected. Had to go park in some remote location of the airport waiting for a time. Don't know how long delays are going.
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:54 am

B747-200F, N921FT on landing. No damage reported, except stuck in the mud/snow off end runway 4R.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:57 am

No worries...Joe Patroni is working on it now, and will have the a/c out of the way in no time!  Laugh out loud
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:03 am

No worries...Joe Patroni is working on it now, and will have the a/c out of the way in no time!

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:30 am

Is it just me, or does it always look like Joe Patroni has REALLY high blood pressure?

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:39 am


Are there any photos available for web viewing???
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:57 pm

Very poor pictures available...



[Edited 2005-01-23 09:00:24]
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:15 pm

What was the METAR at the time.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:43 pm

Something similar happend to a Tower Air at JFK I think it was in the blizzard of 1995. It was an aborted take off.


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Wow, if it was one of those all white Polars nobody would be able to see it!



Boy, I sure miss the snow in New York......


and confirms if it was landing or takeing off?


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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:58 pm

Not the most pleasant weather yesterday afternoon.


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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:44 am

Posted the pic in another thread but here it is for this one...


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and a close-up



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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:46 pm

Got word that another jet slid off the end today as well. Anyone know what the type was?
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:49 pm

I know a FedEx flight had some kind of incident, but that's all I know.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:50 pm

i've heard that it was a FEDEX plane. dont know any other info yet. will try to update after i talk to a few people too cold to go out and look lol.
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:51 pm

Looks Bad.
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:54 pm

You can't just tow those things out of the arrestor beds, and I'm sure a 747 would sink in that thing pretty far. They initially said they would have 4R cleared by Monday, but I don't see that happening, unless they are working non-stop to get that thing out (which they are probably doing).

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:17 pm

Looking at the pics in detail, looks like it actually missed the arrestor bed and is just stuck in mud/snow. Maybe it clipped the front/forward section, not sure. Look at the pic and you'll see the little platform thing with what looks like steps going up, that's the arrestor bed. Will have to check it out tomorrow.

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:45 pm

Is that plane still there? I wonder how they will move it? A crane? I would think a tug would never get the traction to haul it out of there...
 
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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:48 pm

Looking at the pics in detail, looks like it actually missed the arrestor bed and is just stuck in mud/snow

I didn't even think of that, I just assumed it got stuck in the bed. Also, if you look at the approach lights on the left, you can see the plane turned pretty far off the runway centerline. I wonder if the pilot did that on purpose or just slid that way because of the ice?

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RE: Aircraft Slides Off Runway 4 At JFK

Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:03 am

Well the story is that the pilot didn't know he was off the runway until the airplane stopped, so I would guess that the drift off the side of the runway was due to a combination of ice, wind, and just not being able to see anything.

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