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JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:12 pm

Does anyone know if there is going to be any new routes or huge planes coming into KJAX for the superbowl??

thx..

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Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:50 pm

Delta has 47 additional scheduled flights during the 2 days prior and 2 days after the Super Bowl. Nothing will be smaller than a 757 to ATL and most of the originally scheduled ATL flights have been upgraded to a 767-400. None of the other cities flights have been upgraded yet.
I am not certain what other airlines are doing, but once the teams have been established there will be additional charter flights added and you will likely see 747's and such.
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:01 pm

Delta's running 22 flights on that Monday up to ATL, 11 757s, 1 767-200, 7 767-300s, and 3 767-400s. This is 10 more flights than normal (normally, it's 3 757s, 1 767, 7 763s). CVG is seeing no increase in traffic (still 2 737-200s, 2 CRJs, 2 CR7s).

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:32 pm

Im not a big football fan but I read one of the teams charters a Hawaiian 767.

That would be super interesting to see at JAX but I doubt thats one of the 2 teams in the superbowl.
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:49 am

The HA 767 is operated for the Oakland Raiders, I saw it in IND when they played the Colts this fall. The Raiders were 5-11 and needless to say didn't make the playoffs.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:04 am

Haha, I'm off my 7 day banning now...just in time to respond to a good thread.

I work part time at an airport in Jacksonville, Cecil Field...it's not a commercial field by any means, mostly military stuff.....but we're expecting about 300 aircraft in for superbowl. I took a look at the reservations stack the other day, it's going to be a TON of Cessna Citations, Hawkers, Falcons, BBJ's, CRJ's, 727's, etc. We don't have the capability to support large aircraft that require airstairs/GPU/Huffer, but anything with airstairs is pretty much fair game. We kept getting calls from people asking if we can take a DC-10 and a 757...I wish!

But anyways, it's going to be mad busy for a week, and we expect the reservations to relly flood in after tonight, because we'll know who's playing in the Bowl.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:42 am

Very awesome. Thx for all the replys.

I hope I get to see some charted 747s in Jax! That would be so awesome!!!

What team would be big enough to need a whole 747, though???

[Edited 2005-01-23 18:56:09]
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:55 am

Also- where do you guys get all this info on sceduled flights and such?
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:44 am

CO has a LGA-JAX flight on Sat. and a JAX-LGA flight on Mon. They will service JAX with a 735 both ways.
Where will DL obtain all the gate space needed for the extra flights??? I think it is great for them to be able to add so many frequencies - Hopefully it will be very lucrative for them!
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:56 am

They are converting a Cargo building into a makeshift terminal for some of the flights. DL will have ticket counters and kiosks for checking in the passengers. You see a similar setup curbside in the South Terminal in ATL while they are building the TSA screening facility underground. These flights are in cooperation with the cruise ship companies that will be donating their cruise ships as hotels during the game. For a percentage of the Super Bowl traffic will all have one package including transportation by bus to/from the hotel (Cruise Ship) to the airport. These folks are some of the ones that will be using the makeshift terminal. Only the normal daily ops will use Concourse A in JAX.
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:46 am

If I'm not mistaked both teams use Delta 767-300 aircraft usually. THe Patriots deff use dl aircraft.
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:29 am

I thought PHL used NW. Probably will be a 747-200. I know the Patriots will be a 763 assuming they hold on here.
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:55 am

I think you are right. I've seen the NWA 747 here a few times over the years with the eagles. I thought I've seen on flytecomm a dl763 for them every so often maybe im wrong.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:58 am

Can Delta really fill up all that equipment to KJAX?

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:10 pm

The Eagles do use NW, and I'd say its a fairly safe bet that they will get a 742 for the trip to JAX...

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Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:18 pm

I'd say a NWA 742 or even a 744 for the Eagles. Possibly a DC-10 and/or 752 for friends and families
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:21 pm

The Pats flew a Delta 764 to PIT for tonight's game. During the regular season they fly from PVD since it's closer to Foxboro than Boston is. For the past few Super Bowls the Pats have flown in/out of BOS. Expect a couple DL 764's from the Pats.

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Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:23 pm

For the Super Bowl last year, the Pats used 3 or 4 Delta 767-400s. Back in 2002, when the Pats had NW, they used 3 NW DC-10-30s (could help for an Eagles reference, but different teams have different requirements).

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:40 pm

Eagles will probably arrive in a NW 757, New England in a DL 763, and the family charter flights will get the biggest equipment the airline has to offer. Both teams are East Coast so I wouldn't expect 747 or 777-size aircraft for the players on such a short flight.
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:44 pm

Airtran is running special non-stops from both PHL & BOS

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050123/nysu023_1.html

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Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:26 pm

Delta is also adding 738 equipment to JFK and LGA. I believe 3 flights throughout the day. The attempt is to depart a company plane every 45 minutes. Many flights will be using the cargo building, and I wouldnt be surprised if a couple of planes end up at the end of Concourse B where the groundside commuter gates are with mobile stairs attached to them. This is certainly a good time to have Gate A1 back, now that the TSA finally got the single checkpoint. They took A1 away from Delta because they needed the space for a checkpoint around 2002.

I remember that I worked in JAX when the SuperBowl was awarded a couple years ago. I told my supervisor, "I sure hope I'm not here when that happens." Fortunately, I am in ATL now. And guess who is NOT going to JAX for temporary duty work? lol Actually, it shouldn't be that bad. After all, most of the extra sections will be over at the freight terminal and maybe over by Signature(formerly AirKaman) FBO.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:29 pm

Does anyone have any info on which charter airlines will be flying from BOS for the Super Bowl? I got tickets to the game and I am flying to JAX on a charter flight on Friday. I still don't know which airline will be operating the flight.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:17 pm

777gk:
What are you basing that on? I would expect the teams to fly the same size aircraft they flew all year long, if not bigger. You have to remember these teams travel with ALOT of gear. It's not just players. If the Eagles did indeed use a NW 742 this year, I would expect them to fly the 742 at the very least. And you know after the players fill they're seats, they're families and the press will occupy whatever seats are left. Should be interesting to find out which planes they use, though.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:24 pm

Ren41,

Last year, at HOU, the Patriots fans came in on a 757 charter by TransMeridian. I believe it was the TravelSpan one if my mind serves me. 757s were also operated as charters by Ryan (the Rubloff colored one), Pace (the Hooters one-IAH) while 727s from Champion Air showed up as well.
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777gk, wondering if you had my name on your release this past week, anyway, you'd be surprised how sometimes short hops even require the big planes as the equipment upload is what causes the need. I remember during preseason this year, Tampa Bay had a 757-300 of NW (correct me here) for their game at Jacksonville! Philly could have a 747-200 if family members fly with the team instead of coming down on a later charter. Should see the teams fly there pretty soon as they need to be there for media day which is Tuesday if I remember right.

DeltaGuy, good you're back, expect an email from me as I'll be at Cecil on Super Bowl Sunday jotting down the numbers and hopefully taking some pics. Should be an impressive lineup there!

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Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:07 pm

Jeff:
Let me know if you need/wouldn't mind any company on Sunday at Cecil....

as far as Delta flights into JAX, it looks like on Feb 3-4 we'll be getting a flight from ATL every 40 minutes, with nothing smaller than a 757 (a few 764s in the mix too)

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:26 pm

I worked for DL in BWI four years ago when the Ravens went to the Super Bowl. They chartered an international 767-300ER for the team and a 767-300 and 767-400 for friends, family, sponsors, etc. Expect something similar for the Patriots to go to JAX.

BTW, that year the Ravens played the Broncos in the playoffs and they flew a United 777 DEN-BWI. They had 5-6 guys in the forward bin loading up all the equipment which filled up a good sized truck.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:38 am

The Eagles took a Northwest DC10 and the Patriots took a Delta 764 to JAX today. When do the family charters leave?
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:49 am

Since hotels are booked all along I-95 and people will have to stay in Daytona Beach during Superbowl weekend. Will there be an increase of traffic at DAB by any chance?
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:04 am

Awesome..thanks for all the great replys!

I just got back from downtown at all the superbowl stuff going on; some of the festivities have already begun for the locals (MEE!! :p).

I found out that the charter flights are actually coming into Cecil Airfield, and I think the flights came in sometime today. I got to see the fox & espn sets for brodcasting..and I hope to get to see Tom Arnold somtime! :p
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:07 am

by the way!.. I figured out today through banners and stickers and whatnot that I think SouthWest is the official airline of superbowl XXXIX.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:26 am

SouthWest is the official airline of superbowl XXXIX

While WN is the official airline of the NFL and the Super Bowl; DL will be the host airline of this years Super Bowl.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:32 am

Oh ok, thanks DeltaMIA
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:34 am

New England used a 767-400 today and flew out of Logan in Boston to Cecil in Jacksonville. Flytecomm.com didn't appear to show what PHL did.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:39 am

Flytecomm showed a Northwest DC10 into PHL this morning and also show a DC10 from Philly into Cecil this afternoon
 
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:40 am

What about AA, CO or UA? Does anyone know if these airlines are making any changes to the schedule?

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:44 am

All I can say if you're going to the Superbowl is on your way home, use online check-in and don't have any luggage to check.

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:57 am

Yea- I just checked it out and found a DC-10 into Cecil this afternoon.. arrived @ 4:15 ET from Phili. Yup- that's them!  Smile

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:12 am

Interesting...can't recall the Birds ever using a DC-10 before, usually its either a 757 or a 742...maybe NW couldnt spare the 742 this weekend? Be interesting to see if they come back on a DC-10 or not...

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Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:33 am

Here's a link to a photo of the Eagles boarding it...its in the new colors:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=px10101301940.super_bowl_eagles_px101&prov=ap

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:53 am

Wow, what a long day......I work ramp at Cecil for Signature, so I had the distinct privelege of working both the Patriots and Eagles flights. The usually very quiet Cecil ramp was loaded with tons of police motorcycles, vans, busses, and tons of press. Unfortunately, Signature would not allow me to carry my camera, even though all the press and other people had theirs! I felt a little gyped....anyways.

The Patriots brought in a DL 767-400...we marshalled her in, I chocked the mains, then we drove the beltloader up and attacked the forward cargo bin (the other guys had the aft one)...took bloody forever, they sure don't know how to travel light. I'm 6'2", so now I feel alot of sympathy for the guys who have to do that everyday! Got her unloaded, chatted with the FO for a bit...they had plenty of catering leftover, so they left us a huge fruit tray, tons of cookies, candy, etc...very first class.

The Eagles brought in a NW DC-10 in the new scheme...absolutely stunning. Marshalled her in, chocked it....same procedure with the forward cargo bin. Eagles didn't have so much bulky cargo, but had bags that were well over 100 lbs!!!! NW didn't leave us any catering unfortunately. Their ACARS went inop, so we had to take a belt loader back out to the jet, and hand the release up to the Captain through his window (the airstairs were already gone). Sent them off, and the press finally left.

My friend Jonathan (jderden777) decided to stop by and take some shots, you'll see those on here very soon...he did manage to snap 2 of me, thanks dude!

Me telling my manager and Jim that we'll need the belt loader to send the paperwork up lol.


Paperwork going up...I'm to the extreme left, watching to see if this thing is gonna make it up there!


Bout to taxi out....shadow was from the FBO/Tower, it was about sundown time.


Nice little activity for this sleepy decomissioned Navy base! I'm sure some of the pilots were ex-Navy, because we got a very nice salute on departure from both aircraft....took off, and immediately banked left, dropped their wing at us, and overflew the old base...very awesome indeed.

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Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:12 am

Very awesome DeltaGuy! I was gonna head over to cecil to see what was up but I decided not to.

Great post though!, love the pics!  Smile

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:36 am

nice pics indeed DeltaGuy....haha...

anyway very cool stuff indeed today, the drive out to Cecil was well worth it...not sure if anyone else is headed out here or plans to do much spotting (especially around Cecil) but they are setting up designated areas for spotters so please you guys stick to those spots as best you can. the airport authority has been kind enough to provide these locations based on all the numerous inquiries they've received about spotting - guys don't ruin it for everyone else - it will be a very hectic weekend and wandering off around the airport (possibly to locations you are not wanted) for a good shot doesn't exactly make a good case for our hobby. don't want to sound like a hardass and that any of you are going to do this but i just figured i'd put that out there - just use some common sense.

good luck to everyone this weekend!
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:40 am

great pic! hah.. you already got it on a.net! wow..that was fast!



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Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:16 am

well, no its not on a.net yet....its in the queue it'll be a few days before its screened....thanks for the compliment  Smile

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Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:24 am

Oh ok, awesome. A inner for sure! :p

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:41 pm

Does anyone know if they're going to use the same a/c on the return aircraft?

er..restate: What type aircraft will they be flying on their return flight?

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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:45 pm

HlywdCatFt,

Highly likely you'll see SOME extra traffic there at DAB, however there are 9 airports that will probably get the overflow from Cecil. JAX, CRG, SGJ, BQK, 55J, HEG airports all are part of the ATC STMP airports listed for the Super Bowl and thus, will get the majority of the overflows.

Myself, I'm staying in DAB for Sat/Sun nights as hotels in JAX are either gone or more money than my car payment...

Expect some NASCAR traffic later this week as there are 18 drivers running in the Rolex 24Hrs race starting Saturday at Noon.

Jonathan, good to hear you've set up a place for spotters at Cecil. If you don't mind, please post the details and I'll pass them on to the bizjet lists as there's going to be 50-100 Brits coming over the spot (log numbers or photos)

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Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:27 am

Isn't that just like DeltaGuy, always trying to ham it up for the camera and do anything he can to get into the picture. Shame, shame.  Nuts


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Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:32 am

SGJ will be getting at least 4 DL flights on two separate days.
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RE: JAX Superbowl Air-Travel

Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:21 pm

Nice pics Chris. I hope the Eagles will be flying on an old busted down DC-8 after the Pats beat them.

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