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Releif Pilots On Private Jets.

Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:28 am

This is basically what the topic states.

Where do releif pilots rest when they fly small private jets(G-5, Global Express) Are they allowed to be in the cabin with the VIPs. And if they are does the noise that some VIPs make desturb their resting prosses.
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RE: Releif Pilots On Private Jets.

Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:52 am

The G5 and the Global Express have a small crew rest area just aft of the cockpit. There is a berthable seat in this compartment which can be closed off so one of the pilots can sleep if needed. Also there is a separate small crew lavatory and a small galley located opposite the crew rest area so not to disturb the passengers.

On smaller corporate jets the only other crew seat is the jump seat and they are not the most comfortable for long trips so usually the pilot would sit in one of the passenger seats. If one of the pilots has to use the lavatory, which on most corporate jets is located in the rear, he has to walk past the passengers.

Corporate jets are different that airliners in that the cockpit door is usually left open and the crew is not isolated from the passengers. There is no regulation to have the cockpit door locked and numerous times the passengers will come up front and talk to the pilots. You have to remember these planes are privately owned and in most cases only the company VIP’s are onboard.

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RE: Releif Pilots On Private Jets.

Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:42 am

since most corporate flying takes place under FAR part 91 regulations there is no specific regulation for ahving relief crews onboard.
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RE: Releif Pilots On Private Jets.

Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:33 pm

Most aircraft that have range that could get into duty issues (G-V, Global Express, etc) operate under part 135 regs. Every one that I've been on has had some sort of crew rest area just behind the cockpit. G-Vs have the type Jetstar described. It's usually a seat that fully reclines on the right side of the aircraft directly behind the door. It's usually across from the front galley. On the couple global expresses I've seen they have a berth almost like what you'd expect on a 777. Same goes for the BBJ.

Also, many aircraft that are operated per Part 91 are regulated less by the regulations and more by insurance requirements. As a result we see a lot of aircraft that are operated with two pilots rather than single pilot. In many cases it's cheaper to pay a low time pilot to sit in the right seat.

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