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NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:28 am

Wow, what a ride that would be. Back in 1977 NW operated a DC-10 from Chicago to Billings to Great Falls to Spokane to Seattle. On a DC-10.

How long did that operate that route? And with a wide-body? Can you imagine catching a DC-10 non-stop from Billings to Great Falls?
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:38 am

As far as I guess. The service DC10 possible runs about 7 to 10 years. I still have old NWA timetables.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:41 am

Can a DC-10 land at GEG? I've been there lots of times, and the biggest a/c I've seen there is a UPS 752.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:48 am

GEG (Spokane) has 9,000ft runway for years! DC10 can handle that 9000FT DC10 used fly to LGA has 7000Ft which it is most shortest runway for DC10. But In Lihue, Hawaii. United DC10 used to fly. It has 6,500 Ft!


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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:51 am

The flight that you are talking about is probably NW flight 71....in 1975, that flight operated Newark-Detroit-O'Hare-Billings-Great Falls-Spokane-Seattle.....Flt 72 did the same routes in reverse.....and both flights were DC-10's....Flt 71 left EWR at 1040am (EDT) and arrived SEA at 644pm (PDT).

Not a DC-10, but during the same year, NW operated flight 109....O'Hare-Minneapolis-Jamestown-Bismarck-Billings-Bozeman-Butte-Spokane-Portland-Seattle.....Boeing 727.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:05 pm

Man I miss those days...puddle jumping across the region or across the country in full sized planes...I really miss the old local service carriers, who made a specialty of that. Ozark used to have a daily DC-9 that went STL-PIA-MLI-CID-ALO-RST-MSP. What a ride! >SNIFF<
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:04 pm

My favorite I would have liked to do was original Frontier Convair 580 flight #522: DFW-LAW-Duncan,OK-OKC-Enid,OK-LBL-Lamar,CO (ExSa)-DEN-LAR-CPR-Worland,WY-COD-BIL-BZN-MSO. It left DFW at 6:45am and arr MSO at 4:13pm. It then turned flight 523 dep MSO at 5:30pm and flew MSO-BZN-BIL-Worland,WY-CPR-LAR-DEN, arr DEN at 9:59pm.
That would've been fun to travel on.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:36 pm

Back in 1986 or 87. I flew once with 2 stop on Delta #145 ORD-LEX-CHA-ATL on a B727. It was fun! At ORD gate agent asked me, do you like to put you on a flight non stop to ATL? I told him, no, I would like to fly on a 2 stops just for fun. He said OK! It was great trip with 3 times cockpit visited while deplane/boarding in ground ORD, LEX and CHA. I never forget that a great memory flight.


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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:50 pm

God bless regulation....any airline that tried that these days wouldn't last long!  Nuts
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:54 pm

Back in the mid-70's UA operated a 727-100 on a routing of (as best I recall)
FWA-SBN-DEN-BOI-GEG-SEA. Don't remember the flight number anymore, but I had some relative take it to SEA on this routing instead of connecting at DEN to a DEN-SEA nonstop. Guess they did not like changing planes!
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:46 pm

Didn't NW have international flights that would start in Manila and end at ORD or JFK with about 5 stops along the way. I recall a flight MSP-ORD in 1975, my first DC-10 flight, and I recall hearing somene say the had been on the plane since Seoul.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:50 pm

For what its worth, NW operated the SEA-GEG-SEA segment with a DC-10 up until the late 80s.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:57 pm

Who would have ever though a flight number would be a story for you.. I mean a flight that stops 5 times sounds fun. You get to take off and land 5 times. that is awesome.

 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:53 pm


I love this thread! I miss those years of multi-stop flights. Yes, NW 747 used to fly a daily JFK-IAD-ORD-ANC-HND and on some days the same flight continues to OKA-MNL (5 stops all the way to MNL). Breakfast is served on the JFK-IAD, hot lunch on IAD-ORD, dinner on ORD-ANC, dinner on ANC-HND, dinner on HND-OKA, snacks on OKA-MNL.

Nowadays, the only multi-stop flights are the CO island hoppers HNL to GUM stopping at Majuro, Johnston, Kwajalein, Kosrae, Chuuk, Pohnpei. and the Air Labrador Twin Otter flight that has about 8 stops.

Can anybody think of other current multi-stop flights?

I remember the most number of stops for a jet flight is LADE F28 in Argentina in the 80s---I believe about 10 stops all the way to Comodoro Rivadavia. Can anyone confirm this?
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:31 pm

Back in 1976, my girlfriend drove up to Marquette, MI.....I flew up a few days later, and then drove back to Detroit with her....

The flight....North Central flight 343.....Detroit-Lansing-Grand Rapids-Green Bay-Menominee-Escanaba-Marquette. Aircraft....Convair 580.

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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:00 am

I remember a similiar Ozark flight. I was 2 or 3 at the time but i vaguely remember getting on at MLI and making like 2 stops before getting to Minneapolis to see my grandparents. My mom told me that we had to stop for fuel haha. This was in 1986 however so we were in the prime of deregulation.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:37 am

QuestAir,
GEG gets a daily 767-300 from DSM arrives somewhere around 5.
During Xmas time Fedex sends up a DC/MD-10.
There is even a pic of a Korean 747-400 taking off from GEG in the database.
When I lived up in that region GEG always held out hope of getting to be a cargo reliever hub or hoping fedex/ups might increase operations. DHL might with their new 6 "minihub" plans
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:27 am

When I was a kid back in 1976 or so, our family needed to fly from Roanoke, Va to Huntington, W. Va. I went with my mom to get the ticket at the Roanoke Airport. I was allowed to pick the flight.

She told the ticket agent we wanted the flight that went from Roanoke, Bluefield, Beckley to Huntington on a YS-11. The ticket agent informed her there was a non-stop 737 flight that left a little later in the day. Mom told him, no, my son wants to take-off and land more than that. The ticket agent looked me straight in the eye and said, "I certainly understand that!"

There are so many amazing things about that story. A YS-11, multiple ways to get from Roanoke to Huntington, and a ticketing agent that understands why a kid might want to enjoy multi take offs and landings.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:35 am

NW currently operates:

MSP-Great Falls-FCA (DC-9)
MSP-BIL-Jackson Hole (A320) During winter, its direct MSP-Jackson Hole in summer
MSP-BZN-Helena (DC-9) its going direct again with CRJ's

MSP-GFK-DVL (Saab 340)

along with many other Saab 340
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:58 am

Another OZ flight I fondly recall was DEN-SUX-PIA-CMI-IAD-LGA. I grew up in PIA and had relatives in Northern Virginia, used to take the PIA-CMI-IAD flight twice a year.

Braniff had a few milkruns between MSP and DFW, with stops in various places like OMA DSM TUL ICT OKC and MCI. Not sure what the most-stopping flight was but I seem to recall a MSP-OMA-MCI-Oklahoma-DFW flight at one point.

Hughes Airwest: These from a 1978 timetable
GEG-Kalispell-Twin Falls-SLC-LAX-SAN
SFO-Chico-Redding-Klamath Falls-Redmond-PDX
GDL-PVR-PHX-SJC-SFO-SMF-EUG-PDX-SEA flt 4, 7 stops from GDL-SEA!
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:31 am

For much of the 1970s, United had a daily 737 flight that leapfrogged its way down California's Central Valley, on something like a San Francisco-Stockton-Modesto-Merced-Visalia-Los Angeles routing.

There were also San Francisco-Fresno-Bakersfield-Los Angeles and San Francisco-Monterey/Salinas-Santa Barbara-Los Angeles jet flights.

Must have been good fun to puddle jump across sunny California!
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:59 am

BAck in the early 90's i flew TWA from LAX-SFO on a L1011. I was a wee lad back then and dont remember anything from the industry at that point in time. Was this flight part of a puddlejumping flight across the US? Im curious where the flight origionated and ended...anyone know? or have guesses? I remember i left LAX early in the AM...like 7am perhaps.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:17 am

As the son of ex-United Airlines employees, this thread brought back many memories from the past. Now that I am new member, I can chime in  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I think my record trip was FAI-ANC-SEA-GEG-SFO-MRY on a United Airlines 727-100 in May 1989. The flight left Fairbanks around 11:30pm and arrived in Monterey around noon if I remember. I had finished my first year at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks and flew down to California where my mother and my truck were waiting for me. We made the trek up the Alaska Highway in 6 days.

Currently, Horizon Air flies what the crew refers as the triangle route... SEA-PDX-RDD-ACV-PDX-SEA in the morning and SEA-PDX-ACV-RDD-PDX-SEA in the afternoon. Both are on the roomy DASH-400 (36" legroom and free Northwest micro-beer and wine!!). Last November I flew SEA-PDX-(Circled ACV for 30 minutes)-RDD-PDX. We continued on to Redding since Arcata was fogged in. I stayed on the plane and returned Portland because there is nothing to do in Redding and Portland has tons of brewpubs. The next morning I caught the morning flight and went PDX-RDD-ACV. The fog retreated to the end of the runway long enough for us to land. Yes, I made sure I was credited all the mileage for that roundabout 21 hour trip home.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:54 am

Can't believe nobody mentioned this one: AS still does SEA-KTN-WRG-PSG-JNU-ANC, SEA-KTN-SIT-JNU-ANC, and SEA-JNU-YAK-CDV-ANC, each flight twice a day, going north in the morning and south in the afternoon/evening.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:08 am

Flywithken:

TWA did not puddle jump in the early 90's, especially with the 1011. At most you stopped in St Louis.

The closet thing they had to puddle jumper were STL-JFK one stop flights in places like DTW, DCA and CLE.

Go back to the 70's and very early 80's to puddle jump on TWA.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:16 am

JSNWW81,
never did the route but have a uncle who flew sfo-smf-rno-ely-eko-slc-den route back in the 70s as well and he tells of flying the inland cali routes alot as well on the 732 sfo-lax but had something like 5-6 stops along the way.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:27 am

We still have this today.

Southwest does it quite a bit although even they have reduced most of their flights to just three or four stops.

But we still have Southwest flights like WN405 BUF - BWI - MDW - OMA - LAS - OAK

Now if they'd just let you book the sucker.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:32 am

The reason that I thought of Southwest was because in the early nineties I flew on a flight that originated in either DET, CLE or BUF (I can't remember which) then flew to IND, where I got on, then to STL, OKC, ABQ and PHX, where I got off, then it was going to LAS and OAK.
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:32 am

Right now, NWA has 470 from ATL to DTW to FNT
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:59 am

NW does MSP-MCW-FOD-MCW-MSP 3x daily on the Saab 340 to MSP.
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:04 am

How would you like this one from Northwests April 1983 timetable, flight 68 Fairbanks to Seattle,Spokane,Missoula,Helena,Billings,Bismark,Minneapolis,Washingon DC all on a B727. Talk about milk run
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:33 am

I lived near Spokane ( GEG ) in the early 80's and flew the then-named Northwest Orient frequently into three cities in Montana, usually on B727 aircraft. But I do recall once flying on a DC-10 to Seattle, but can't recall whether I boarded in Spokane or Great Falls, MT. You could upgrade to first class for very little at that time, which I often did, and I remember it well because I was the ONLY passenger up there on that flight ! Finally, the FA sat next to me for much of the flight, chatted a bit, and poured me a few glasses of red wine. I remember that one well....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:50 am

OzarkD9S -
Could it be that the flight was an continuation of a flight from Hawaii? HNL-LAX-SFO?

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RE: NW - ORD-BIL-GTF-GEG-SEA On A DC-10

Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:03 pm


Can anybody think of other current multi-stop flights?


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