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Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:42 am

Hi all,

I just wondered if anybody of you knows, when PA started to use the improved blue-cheatline-livery on their 747s. I recall, in the 70s and early 80s, they had a thinner blue-line, mostly going all the way around the nose, while in the mid 80s, they used a slightly thicker line with a white nose until introducing the big PAN-AM letters.

Would appreciate any answer or comment.

I was also wondering, if any 747 that was used till the end or at least 1990/1991 was left that never got the big-letter-livery.

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am

I was also wondering, if any 747 that was used till the end or at least 1990/1991 was left that never got the big-letter-livery.

I think these photos should answer this part of the question. Other examples to begin understanding when Pan Am's livery changed over the years can be sought by narrowing your photo search to specific years.

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:18 am

I tell yer what, that bottom picture really is a thing of beauty. Shame about the oddball cheatline Pan Am 747 (and the Air China tail), otherwise it would be perfect. I think my Viva La Avrilution desktop ("Things are about to get 'complicated'") is about to become a thing of the past.

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:23 am

The PA cheatline was changed in the late 70's. Instead of wrapping around the nose, a diagonal cut was introduced. This was done ostensibly to avoid paint mismatches when swapping out the nose/radome section. Just shortly prior to introducing the billboard livery, the cheatlines were widened slightly. I have no information why or what prompted this intermediate change.
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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:25 am

There were still a handlfull 747s with the blue stripe scheme that had yet to be painted to the Pan Am billboard scheme when the carrier shutdown in 1991.
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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:07 am

A little before 1991, but still, PA 747s that still had its cheatline:
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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:44 am


Don't quote me on this, but I think it cheatline and Pan Am font size on the letters changed in 1976, with the arrival of the 747SP's.

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:23 am

As an aside, I also clearly remeber the experimental schemes that Pan Am applied to 2 B747-100s in the early 1980s before introducing the billboard scheme...

The first had enlarged PanAm titles in blue, with the cheatline lowered to accomodate this. The second scheme had the now familiar billboard PanAm titles in their final size and location, but the cheatline was reatined both fore and aft of the name.

Luckily there are a few photographs of each in the database;

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:06 am

Hi guys,

thanks for all your comments and the info!!!  Smile
 
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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:15 am

Man, I was there for all that and I don't have any idea what years(s) all this took place. I only remember the first "Billboard" a/c and how embarrassing it looked.

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:16 am

Seeing those pictures, really makes me miss Pan Am......
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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:19 am

Seeing those pictures, really makes me miss Pan Am......

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RE: Pan Am's 747-livery

Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:40 pm

The PA font changed officially in 1973.

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