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Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:16 am

As prompted by a post on if a memorial exists at Tererife airport for the PA/KLM 1977 accident/crash, (apparenetly none at the airport) where are there memorials to Air Crash sites?
Of course, there are temporary ones at the sites (WTC, Pentagon, Pennsylvania) for the terror/crashes of 9/11. There is a memorial on Long Island, NY, near where TWA 800 crashed and several for PA 103 in Scotland and elsewhere. I have seen a plaque in Ireland for the Air-India flight that blew up from a terror bomb off the coast near the site of that plaque in the 1980's. Does any one else know of any other physical memorials for any air crashes?
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:20 am

Not an airliner, or recent, but on Wright peak in the Adirondack mountains, there is a plaque at the very top in memory of a bomber crew training for WWII that struck the mountain and crashed. Eerily, there are still big shards of sheet metal and other parts of the plane up there, since it is too far removed to bring all the remains of the plane out. I actually found part of a propeller wedged between two rocks, and part of the landing gear nearby.

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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:24 am

There is supposed to be one at DTW where NW255 crashed in a grassy slope by I-94 in Romulus, Mi. But i've never seen it.
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:25 am

There is plaque on Sky Hill on the Isle of Man where a Flying Fortress crashed during WWII. It was carrying american servicemen home from Carlisle. It disapeared into fog on the hill and exploded. there are still parts of the plane there in the cretor it left.
 
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:30 am

LTBEWR

I still maintain the last place you are likely to see a memorial to a crash is at an airport (as per my post in the other thread). A memorial at an actual crash site off airport is something else.

If my mother walked past a memorial to people who died in an air crash on the way to boarding a plane, she'd never get on it, and she wouldn't be the only one.

The 9/11 and lockerbie memorials are slightly different. A memorial to corporate negligence, pilot error etc is something else.

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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:31 am

Also I think there is one in Halifax NS for SR 111 for the MD11 crashed off the coast of Canada. TW800 and Egyptair 767 also come to mind in East Moriches and Hampton NY. US 427, a Boeing 737 that crashed in Algonquin PA back in 1994. UA 737 that nose-dived into a neighborhood in 1991 with was thought have crashed from the same malfuntion as US427. And I think there is a plaque memorialising a West Coast Airlines DC9 that crashed on a remote hillside outside of PDX. From an article I read, the crashsite still has wreckage there from a toilet commode, seat frames, galley units and aircraft skin.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:32 am

There's the Swissair memorial near Peggy's Cove, Nova Scotia, Canada. Its absolutely stunning background where such a tragedy occured.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:35 am

I think I saw something how their is a memorial is Sioux City Iowa for the United flight that went down.

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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:42 am

There is a memorial to the THY DC10 victims at the forest at Eremonville, near Paris.
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:56 am

There are 2 memorials near Gander Newfoundland. 1 for the 1985 Arrow Air DC8 crash http://www.gandercanada.com/tour/t_sites.htm#slient or http://www.screamingeagle.org/gander.html and there is another for the 1946 Sabena DC4 crash.

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Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:58 am

Here is the link for the Sabena Memorial.
http://www.ganderourtown.nl.ca/PhotoSabena.htm
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:05 am

There are several memorials in the Netherlands.
The TNF one has already been mentioned in the other thread.

There is a memorial at the crash site of the LY B747 in the Bijlmer (Amsterdam) http://www.theovangogh.nl/bdw_44.html and http://exhibitions.gsd.harvard.edu/contemp/pages/abecedary/unease/unease.htm

Another memorial in Amsterdam is the one remembering the victims of the PY DC8 crash near Zanderij, Paramaribo http://www.geheugenvanoost.nl/article-1001.1778.html . There seems to be another one near Zanderij http://members.ams.chello.nl/b.honing/sr/item20.htm

A small memorial to the victims of the crash of the MP DC10 can be found in a church in the Netherlands http://home.hetnet.nl/~c.tenhove/Herdenking_Monument.htm

The 1996 DDA DC-3 crash memorial is in Haarlem, The Netherlands http://oud.refdag.nl/bin/010926binfo01.html

The only memorial at an airfield is the Belgium C130 Hercules crash memorial at Eindhoven airport; this airport is mainly used for military flights but does have civil flights as well. http://www.luchtmacht.nl/eindhoven/actueel/nieuws/2003/juli/20030715_herculesramp.html
 
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:05 am

Peggy's Cove, that's what it was. Yes jfkyyz, thanks.
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:19 am

There is an memorial on Mt Erebus, Antarctica, for those who died in the 1979 Air NZ crash. It could be the most islolated, largest and most strictly controlled memorial to an aircrash. The interesting things is that although wreaths have been placed there on sigificant anniversaries, they are removed straight after the service as flowers are not allowed to be left due to environmental concerns. The frozen environment preserves items for centuries, so frozen flowers would, in effect pollute the polar environment. A wooden cross was replaced by a metal one as the blizzards erroded the wood too quickly. A whole section of mountainside of many square kilometres has been declared a memorial and tomb as some victims- including my family- were unidentified or unclaimed from the mountain.

I´ve come across many memorials to crashes, large and small, in New Zealand.

 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:25 am

If I'm not mistaken the U.S. actually *requires* an airline to erect a memorial after a crash.

It's been years since I had CARE team training back at Midway, but there are certain requirements airlines *have* to follow after a major incident and I believe building a memorial is one of them. I guess that makes sense though.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:32 am

I have seen a plaque in Ireland for the Air-India flight



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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:35 am

I spoke of the Wright Peak crash in the first reply, and here is some more info on it.

http://www.adirondack-park.net/history/b47.wright.html



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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:59 am

There's a memorial for the souls lost in the Pacific Southwest Airlines midair incident in San Diego at a library in the neighborhood of the crash site, IIRC.

If I remember what I've read correctly, at the time, in terms of loss of life it was the worst acident in aviation history.

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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:07 am

Two come to mind immediately. There is a large memorial near Point Mugu, California, in memory of the Alaska Flight 261 crash on January 31, 2000.



A small plaque commemorating AF4590 is located outside Air France headquarters at CDG.



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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:08 am

Nothing at ORD for AA 191

It's a shame..

 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:12 am

Detroit Metro has a memorial for flight 255. there is also a web site www.flight 255 memorial.com
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:35 pm

At Tell City Indiana, there is a very nice memorial to the people and crew of an Electra that lost a wing due to whirl-mode and crashed just off a road. The landscape is beautiful and the people who keep it nice do and excellent job. I was there in April of 2001. The plane crashed March 17, 1960. The locals never forgot.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:01 pm

In San Diego, there is a tree and a plaque at the North Park branch of the Public Library system (at 31st & North Park Way), located approximately five blocks away from the PSA 727 crash site. No mention is made of the actual address on the plaque, nor are any names mentioned. It is a very simple and peaceful memorial to a very violent moment.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:32 pm

I think there's a memorial near the Airport where the SAS MD-80 crashed on take off at Milan.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:00 pm

Hey.

757MDE: you are right, this crash was famous because of the "runway incursions", this happend on the foggy morning of Sept. 8 at Italy’s Linate Airport near Milan, when many of the traditional elements of runway collisions were in play. A Cessna Citation II business jet taxied onto an active runway, invisible in the fog, smack into the path of an SAS MD-87 on takeoff. The MD-87’s nosewheel probably had just lifted into the air. The planes collided and the MD-87 veered into a nearby baggage-handling depot. the SAS jet bound for Copenhagen, All 110 passengers and crew on the MD-87, and the two pilots and two passengers in the Citation, were killed. The accident involved more than the total loss of life in both aircraft, as four ground personnel were killed, bringing the total to 118 dead.
all these because Linate airport Ground surveillance radar was not available because a negligent behavior of the Linate ground personal.


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Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:19 pm

I read online you can access the memorial and crash site for US Air 427 outside of Pittsburgh...but you have to join the Memorial Society first.

Does anyone know if there is a crash memorial for the American Eagle crash in Renssaelaer, Indiana back in October 1994?
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:34 pm

There is one at Sao Miguel island (Azores) near Lagoa do Fogo, where a 22-yo pilot of the local flying club crashed near a mountain top in the 60s in a cloud. He was the only victim, and the plane's (rather bent) propellor is attached to the memorial stone. I have a pic, but I have no easy way of posting it I'm afraid...
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:24 pm

Theres a park outside Milan with a monument over the victims in the SAS crasch at Linate in 2001.
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:50 pm

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I am quite certain that there is a memorial in Roselawn, IN where that plane went down, never seen it though. I believe that crash lead to AA moving all turbo-prop aircraft to the Caribbean, can someone confirm that?
 
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:21 pm

There is one in Hopewell Township, outside of PIT for US flight 427. But I believe it's on private property and you need permission to view it.
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Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:31 pm

At the road just outside the terminal of Flores Peten, Guatemala, is a memorial for a military DC-3 which crashed there in 1951.
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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:42 pm

Is there a memorial of the JAL 123 B747 that crashed into Mt. Osutaka in Japan due to the failure of the rear pressure bulkhead in 1985 ?

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Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:26 am

In the chapel of Methodist Hospital in Brooklyn, New York, there's a memorial plaque to the people who died in the UA/TW midair collision in (IIRC) 1960.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:31 am

"There is one in Hopewell Township, outside of PIT for US flight 427. But I believe it's on private property and you need permission to view it."
Never heard of it, even though I live 15-20 minutes away from the crash site...

I know there's a memorial for NW225, as well as one for UA93.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:43 am

PROSA I think there is also a plaque or small monument at the intersection of 7th Ave and Sterling Place, the intersection that the tail of the DC 8 was sitting in. My Cousin lived at 5th Ave and Sterling and was in the Catholic school the plane just missed by feet. Hes a retired NYPD today.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:13 am

I think I saw a very discrete memorial plaque in Mauritius for the passengers and crew of SAA's "Heidelberg", A 747-200 Combi, which crashed while trying to make an emergency landing in MRU (routing TPE-JNB), late '80s, due to a fire in the Combi section. All sadly perished...
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:29 am

which crashed while trying to make an emergency landing in MRU

Joker SA295 was a very long way from Mauritius when it exploded and crashed into the Indian Ocean.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:19 am

Just a little add on to replies 5 and 6 by Jetjack74 and jfkyyz. The SR 111 memorial is at Peggy's Cove which is roughly an hours drive from the airport and 30 to 45 minutes from the actual city. It is a definite must see if you are in this area, a beautiful memorial, not to mention one of the most famous landmarks in all of canada.
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:52 am

Another correction.... the aircraft was the "Helderberg". ZS-SAS was scheduled to land in MRU enroute from TPE to JNB at just after midnight local time on 28 November 1987 but never arrived. She plunged into the Indian Ocean about 240km from Mauritius with the loss of 140 passengers and 19 crew.


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RE: Memorials At Or Near Air Crash Sites

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:59 am

A memorial was setup just a few weeks after the tragic accident of the Flash Air B733 as it took off from Sharm El Sheikh bound for CAI then CDG.


Egypt's first lady places a wreath beside the memorial in memory of the victims.

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