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AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:18 am

Is it really true? i have not seen a photo of an AA Boeing 757 in MAN for months! And when I tried to see if a such a flight existed on the AA website, I found nothing. Has AA stopped BOS-MAN? Did it do poorly?
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Crosswind
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:25 am

BOS-MAN was only ever intended to be summer only. For the winter American have started a seasonal MIA-MAN route with the B767. BOS-MAN is due to return in the summer on the B757 again.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:27 am

It did excellently. It finished at the end of October.

MAN-BOS was originally timetabled as a seasonal service, summer only. It is back for next summer and will probably go year round. Loads were in excess of 95% and can safely be described as a success for AA.

Unfortunately fleet planning isn't an instant issue and tickets were only sold up until the end of October, so the MAN-MIA service took the slot at MAN T3. That finishes in the spring and MAN-BOS starts again.

MAN-MIA has been renewed for 2005-2006 using a 767, but this would not preclude AA using a 757 for year-round BOS service as well. aa.com is selling tickets for these services now.
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:47 am

Thanks Crosswind and MAd Hatter for clearing this issue up. I look forward to seeing their 757s cross the Atlantic again in the summertime. So this means that when the BOS-MAN returns, the MIA-MAN route ends? That seems kind of strange that AA would end MIA-MAN...is it really that hard to profit on both routes at the same time?
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:54 am

Hey guys,

Any noises about AA starting a BOS-GLA?

Thanks,

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:06 am

MAN-MIA caters for winter traffic when Brits head south for the sun. Just look at the traffic into Orlando. There isn't quite as much in the summer when closer destinations are warmer.

Expect both routes to be operating next winter. AA like the cash they have made from MAN-BOS in the summer, and route profiling has indicated that it would not just be holiday traffic in the warm months.

BOS-GLA might not be able to support itself, but there are feeder services to do the route GLA-MAN-BOS seamlessly through MAN T3. If you haven't used MAN to transit then you won't know just how comfortable and easy that is. T3 is a compact and very modern terminal to change flights in.
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:26 am

WhiteHatter,

there are feeder services to do the route GLA-MAN-BOS

I assume this would be with BA, right?

If you haven't used MAN to transit then you won't know just how comfortable and easy that is.

I've flown through MAN once, around 4 years ago (connecting from GLA to NCE if I remember well). Yes, yt was pretty straightfoward, as far as I remember.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:43 am

I assume this would be with BA, right?

The BA services carry AA codeshare flight numbers. BA might prefer to route the passenger via LHR but booking with AA would access a GLA-MAN sector operated by BA with an AA flight number.

T3 is a reasonably busy terminal, and both flights operate from there. Nothing like the hell of LHR as T3 at MAN is compact and easy on the legs. OneWorld is being concentrated at T3.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:45 am

I heard rumors about AA starting BOS-SNN with a 752, is this true?

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:47 am

WhiteHatter,

Nothing like the hell of LHR

Oh, tell me about it. I flew through LHR last weekend, after a couple of years of avoiding LHR, and it's still the bloody mess that I remember.

Thanks for the info BTW...

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:48 am

AH i have a the joys of trying to transfer at LHR for the first time in a few weeks, With a group of 18 people. Should be amusing.
 
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:52 am

Foxy,

It's not difficult (follow the signs). It's just frustrating and time-consuming.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:33 pm

Yes, we start BOS-SNN on May 1st with a 757.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:19 pm

"BOS-GLA might not be able to support itself"

NWA operated this route a few years ago with the DC-10, the route was very successful until KLM decided to route all european pax via AMS.

Hopefully AA or NWA will commence the service in 2006.


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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:26 pm

Was there some overlap between the BOS route ending and the MIA one starting? I was at MAN one of the days in October and saw 3 AA 763s take off within a couple of hours of each other.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:56 pm

Whitehatter,

As GLA GAZ states above GLA-BOS was a successful operation for years on the much larger 2 class DC-10 before NW and KLM decided to route their transatlantic traffic through AMS.

I don't see why AA couldn't fill the much smaller 1 class 757.

Us guys up here in Glasgow understand how frustrating it is for you in Mancherster to keep hearing that most of the demand is in London and that Manchester couldn't support more long haul flights.

Your comments above re GLA-BOS routing through MAN are just as sensitive.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:10 am

GO, in that case then there is a much stronger chance than in past years that it might be BOS-EDI? Especially with the success of CO now.
 
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:52 am

Sop trying to stir trouble and back to school with ye Laddie!!

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:39 am

Sop trying to stir trouble and back to school with ye Laddie!!

I'm not trying to cause any trouble, it's a genuine question!

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:41 am

Oh I know what u and WhiteHatter are talking about too Snath. I have been to LHR twice. Landing there took forever. And we were in a long line for takeoff about a week later.
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:04 am

I was at MAN one of the days in October and saw 3 AA 763s take off within a couple of hours of each other.

AA operates #6680, JFK-MAN, 762; #54 ORD-MAN, 763, and #158 MIA-MAN,763. This is why you saw three AA 763 take off.

I heard rumors about AA starting BOS-SNN with a 752, is this true?

It hasn't been rumors for quite some time.
AA #212 BOS-MAN, 752
AA #92 ORD-DUB, 763

Gotta fly to two cities in Ireland.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:11 am

AA #6680 is a BA operated flight, they just code share on it, so it could not have been the third AA 763 you saw. If anything, the third 763 was probably a diversion of another AA flight bound for mainland Europe.
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:20 am

Having flown with AA on MAN-BOS in July and MAN-MIA in January I can tell you that both flights were over 80% full. I think AA could easily fly the BOS route year-round and maybe so with the MIA route within the next year or two. I think both would continue to prove popular.
 
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:33 am

You don't normally get 3 AA 763s into MAN. I'm sure it was a day in October. My dad keeps a notebook with the registrations in but I can't find anything in there so it must have been a day when I had gone across on my own. I was expecting to see one 763 on the ORD run, which has been doing it for years and a 752 on the BOS run. I was wanting a photo of the AA 752, as obviously it is something of a rarity over here. I was a bit disappointed to see the second 763, but surprised to see a third. Maybe one had gone tech or something the day before???

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:26 am

Is AA really going to start flying BOS-SNN with a 752? I thought that EI had this route pretty well covered with 2x daily flights on an A330. Perhaps its a codeshare between AA and EI?
 
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:44 am

I didn't know they had a JFK flight as well! When did this start?
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:01 am

They don't...Its a BA flight with an AA codeshare.

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:12 am

Is AA really going to start flying BOS-SNN with a 752? I thought that EI had this route pretty well covered

A, if not the, big reason for that route is to balance off AA's obligation to SNN after announcing new service to DUB.



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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:13 am

GLA-BOS

1. It's on AA's wish list
2. AA is compairing the cost to upgrade more 757 for transatlantic cockpit vs continue to fly them domestically. Startup cost might be more than AA can spend right now.
 
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:40 pm

Do you think there is a chance it will happen for 06 Flew ?

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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:44 am

Having flown with AA on MAN-BOS in July and MAN-MIA in January I can tell you that both flights were over 80% full. I think AA could easily fly the BOS route year-round and maybe so with the MIA route within the next year or two. I think both would continue to prove popular.

They could possilby fill them year-round, but not profitably. These are both leisure markets. The prime travel period for Boston is May-October; for Miami is November-April.
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RE: AA BOS-MAN: Stopped?!

Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:52 am

>I heard rumors about AA starting BOS-SNN with a 752, is this true?<

It would be a good way to get rid of the SNN obligation with the ORD-DUB flight

>It hasn't been rumors for quite some time.
AA #212 BOS-MAN, 752
AA #92 ORD-DUB, 763
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