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American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:17 am

It's already on employee links
NEW AMERICAN EAGLE MARKET
for sale starting FEBRUARY 6, 2005
BOS - YUL
Flights Effective MAY 1, 2005

Also to be announced soon, retuning to the AA timetables will be:
LEX - to both DFW and ORD with ERJs
Service to start on or about June 9

Also to be announced soon
DFW - BUF nonstop with CRJ-70
Service to start on or about June 9

Also at AA, due to DOT delay in announcing winner of routes to Chine, AA will place aircraft pegged for that route, in June only, to fly an additional (3rd) DFW - HNL (something about a 767 and 777 swap elsewhere freeing a 767 for DFW-HNL)
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:02 pm

Not sure if they announced this(probably cause no one cares  Nuts)....but American Eagle is adding a fifth daily roundtrip between DFW and DAY effective March 7th. The new flight will be operated with ERJ-140 equipment. This addition was in response to the pullout of Chicago Express.

Chris
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:15 pm

So, MQ brings back YUL? Good. I remember when MQ, AC, and DL all competed on the route. But MQ dropped out a while back, and then OH dropped the route quietly not too long ago. Now just AC/QK operate the route.

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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:49 pm

Just like OH/DL quietly dropped LGA-YUL recently too. Wonder if anyone will pick-up that route, since AC now has the monopoly (codeshared w/ UA)?
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:37 pm

Boy it sure would be nice to see them restore GPT-DFW, maybe some ORD flts as well.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:25 pm

All the Eagle flights have now been loaded into AA.com

BOS-YUL 4 flights each way on weekdays with ERJ-135s
DFW-LEX 3 flights each way on weekdays with ERJ-145s
ORD-LEX 2 flights each way on weekdays with ERJ-145s
DFW-BUF 1 flight each way on weekdays with CRJ-700
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:23 am

Speaking of schedule changes...

Looks as if MQ RDU-PVD flights will end 30Apr2005.. and I thought they were doing well.. MQ is slowing decreasing service to RDU. any thoughts?
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:25 am

I wish they would add flights to Tallahassee from Miami and maybe to Dallas. Tallahassee needs more competition.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:27 am

Still no sign of American or American Eagle back to BFL...the CRJ700 might be just the plane to do BFL-DFW. If COEx can do it to IAH, why not AE? American wouldn't have been flying it 1984-1998 if it wasn't making SOME money...

Actually, I'm thinking of about my mom who still lives in Bakersfield. Loved it when AA flew MD-80's BFL-DFW. Great for connecting to FSM, where all her family lives. Now she spends 2½ hours on Airport Bus Of Bakersfield to LAX to catch her flights.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:36 am

Your mom can always fly on Skywest to LAX. I can't imagine AA/AE going back into BFL. All they are doing is trimming service on the west coast and letting Skywest have it all. No more PSP in a few weeks. If anything they should have thought better about closing Palomar, right up the street from Legoland, which opened shortly after they pulled out.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:54 am

Why does AE keep trimming their west coast markets? I would think there's a huge market in the smaller/medium sized cities?
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:59 am

Av8trxx:

I think ORD-PSP has always been seasonal for AA, even back when AA flew DC-10s on the route (which was a thrill on the approach).

 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:02 am

Back in the day not only did AA have nonstop MD-80 service from DFW to BFL, but also flew from DFW to Santa Barbara w/ MD-80 service. They also had a flight that went from Santa Barbara to Bakersfield then on the DFW, all with the 80. Those were the days.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:54 am

"Av8trxx: I think ORD-PSP has always been seasonal for AA...."

The service that is being dropped is not seasonal AA service, it's daily Eagle service. AE runs several flights daily in the LAX/PSP market year round. Or at least until early April they will. The flight schedule has already been reduced and the last flight from LAX to PSP now leaves at about 2:30, when the last one used to leave around 7:30pm.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:11 am

Well, now I know where to get all the information the boss won't tell us about our station. Not a hint of YUL rumors around the ramp! They kept this one from us.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:08 pm

Great to hear BUF is getting a non-stopper to DFW again. That's has to be a pretty long flight for a CRJ7 (3+ hours and over 1100 miles). Anyone know what the range is for that plane off hand? Does Eagle have any CRJ-900's?
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:14 pm

No CRJ900 for AE...it is a long flight, but the -700 has the range. It's in the 1500 mile range from what I can remember. I can't express enough at how disappointed I am about losing the PVD-RDU flights. Oh well, back to begging for another DFW and the impossible to get PVD-MIA flight!
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:17 pm

PVD757,

How were the flights doing? And I have to agree.. how disappointing.. American Eagle is slowing suspending quite a few frequencies/routes out of RDU. In the very near future, DL may overtake them as the RJ King.. Not sure if AA/MQ will need all 10 gates they have here soon..

[Edited 2005-02-07 15:19:54]
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:26 pm

They were OK, when I had time to get the info from Sabre, I would usually compare the PVD with BDL and they were comparable with BDL averaging 5-10% more per flight. The flights were full during peak periods. Overall, 2 of the 3 flights were solid, while the other labored behind the other two. AA did absolutely NO marketing AT ALL, not even a lousy banner/sign in the airport, and they gave up on the route afer only 10 months. To give up on it without it ever seeing a May and June (two of the busiest months for PVD traffic) is pretty weak if you ask me (they started the route last July). AA just doesn't seem to care about PVD very much. I thought things were changing with them, but I was wrong. We are no BOS in terms of traffic/yields, but there is a very good market here - it's just not a priority for AA.  Sad
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:31 pm


"DFW - BUF nonstop with CRJ-700"

They announce this every year then abandon their plans. Hopefully finally this will work out. Any info on how they're doing with BUF-LGA?

 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:19 am

PVD757,

I hear ya about AMR not caring very much. I remember when here in ROC we use to have around 25 AA/AE flights a day to ORD, BOS, LGA, JFK, and RDU way back. Now were down to 5 AE a day to ORD. They dont care and thats the fact. We use to do very good from ROC-NYC and when we had RDU back in the day the planes were filled everyday. I wish they would give us a chance to see what we can do around here. I have heard rumors about ROC-BOS possibly, but who knows? No one does anymore and it sucks. I bet BOS all depends on what USAirways does out of here, because they have 3 ROC-BOS fights a day and the airport does not want to lose its BOS connections so they have been in touch with AMR about this and we can only wait to see what happens. LIke the airport has anything to do with what AMR thinks but there is still room to hope something will turn out!
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:00 am

And they announce all the new DFW service, but alas, no 2nd PVD-DFW. I'm sure many of you might find my whining annoying, which is fine, but I'm starting to get AAngry about their willingness to serve the PVD market correctly.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:04 am

What I dont understand is that AA/MQ was using RDU as a connection point for it's PVD service.. to destiantions like MIA, STL, DFW, AUS.. but since they have dropped the service.. are all the connections being re-routed through ORD?

But, PVD, there are still 12 unassigned additions.. perhaps PVD will be one of them..
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:11 am

yes, and 2 new, yet unannounced DFW cities. So if each cities starts with 1 or 2 each, that only leaves 8-10 unassigned flights. Why we didn't get on the list to begin with is what irks me. I know the flight does well load wise & yield wise - they just don't seem to care about little PVD with BOS up the road. It just gets old living in BOS's shadow with the "legacy" carriers.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:18 am

here's an inspiration story...

My parents home airport authority (New Bern, EWN) have decided to step up their efforts to attract new carriers. Currently they only have USX turboprop (DH8-300) 8x daily to CLT. Each flight carriers over an 80% load. The Authority have recently gone to US, AA, and another unnamed airline to state their case. Upon return, they reported to the media (but can't verify cause they have to state the positive) that US was almost certain to initiate another destionation and jet service.. and AA was seriously contemplating re-introducting service (hopefully to RDU, STL, ORD, or DFW).. so an airport authority has a lot to do with additional service..
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:51 am

I'm aware of that, thanks for the info. PVD pitched AA DFW service for 6 years before they added it, and the flight goes gangbusters. AA has the same numbers the airport does, if not more. I have the same numbers the airport does and it is fairly obvious that PVD could profitably support a second DFW flight. AA must choose to allocate the resources here without worrying about diluting BOS traffic. Three things stimulate an increase in travel in specific market: Fare, Nonstop flights, and frequency. The one nonstop flight increased the DFW market O & D by 43.15% with a drop in fare decrease of 12.34%. AA's yield increased by 135.73% in year over year 3Q results. AA has increased its market share to 58% (an increase of 87.85%) from 30% on the route, but offers a limited schedule. If AA adds a frequency to a very strong "AA" market (DFW), they will attract more of 42% of the pax going on another carrier during the rest of the day. Right now people are taking other carriers via a connection to leave outside the 7:00am time frame the current flight is offered. The additional frequency would also increase the overall market again (not by another 43%, but maybe another 15%). Our problem is that AA and the likes (DL, UA, CO) are afraid that adding service in PVD will do nothing more than "steal" passengers from their precious BOS operation. PVD has a large enough market to support reasonable (1, 2, or even 3 daily nonstops) service to many of the larger "legacy" markets (DFW, IAH, DEN, etc.) without relying on BOS pax. Instead of them growing the market with nonstop service, they run and hide in BOS - it just gets sickening to me that's all...Oh Well!
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:19 am

Looks like more to come.


Associated Press
American to Increase Flights in Dallas
Monday February 7, 4:58 pm ET
American Airlines, American Eagle Say They Will Increase Flights in Dallas


FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- American Airlines and sister carrier American Eagle say they will increase flights at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport,


American and Eagle said Monday that their bookings at DFW have increased more than 12 percent since Delta Air Lines began reducing flights there. American and American Eagle are part of AMR Corp.

As a result, American and Eagle for the third time raised the number of flights they plan to add at their home airport to a combined 839 daily departures by July.

In September, American and Eagle announced they would add 70 daily departures at DFW by summer 2005, then increased the figure to 90 new flights a day. Monday's announcement would mean 119 more daily flights than the carriers operated in July 2004.

The increases were spread across 61 routes from DFW, including additional American flights to Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and Boston. Also, regional carrier Eagle will add 11 cities that it had not previously served.

By July, American will operate 550 flights a day at DFW, an increase of 45 from a year earlier, and Eagle will fly 289 flights a day, an increase of 74.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050207/american_airlines_dfw_4.html
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:28 am

AA has been adding a lot of service lately. They have indicated they might add more back to STL, they are adding at DFW & MIA, but what about ORD?

Good for AA. I hope this helps them get back to profitability.

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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:33 am

Could Toledo finally be getting DFW service...if they are one of the two unannounced yet.

I know the station received word that service was coming late last year...but then turned around and said things were questionable due to yeilds being killed by C8. Well C8 is gone now and things have to be doing much better.
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:40 pm

TOL has about the same chance as ROC seeing it. Just leave it at that!
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:47 am

That's has to be a pretty long flight for a CRJ7 (3+ hours and over 1100 miles).

AC flies (or used to fly) YYZ-DFW on a CRJ200. I don't know if I could do that. BOS-YUL, sure. PHX-SBA, why not. LAS-SLC, absolutely. But YYZ-DFW?! My back hurts just thinking about it.

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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:59 am

All the ex-Delta DFW cities want American Eagle now...
BOS-YUL: No surprise.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:02 am

I sure hope they add another DAY flight, all the DFW-DAY/DAY-DFW flights are always sold out. For the past 5 years I've been flying between the two cities, about 50 flights or so, I think I've been on one that was 75% full, the rest were 100% filled.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:29 am

Hey Aa61Hvy.....

You read reply #1??? AEagle is adding a fifth daily roundtrip between DAY-DFW effective March 7th using ERJ-140 equipment.

Chris
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:50 am

Chris- I was just adding to the message, just tossing in my 2cents
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:22 am

TOL could use some of LIT's AEagle service from DFW in exchange for some MD-80's. AEagle is adding a 12th flight from DFW-LIT. AEagle has also added a 6th flight on the ORD-LIT run.

US added a 4th flight to CLT-LIT on the same day.

 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:41 am

I hope CHA is one of the new, not yet announced, destinAAtions from DFW  Smile
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:47 am

I hope CHA is one of the new, not yet announced, destinAAtions from DFW

Supposedly, they will be ex-Delta markets in the Southern US. I'd put my money on Tallahasse and Mobile.
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:12 pm

It seems as if CID and DSM has seen an increase in Eagle to both DFW and ORD?
 
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:25 pm

MIA (Reply 7)

Don't hold your breath on AA ever starting back up here in TLH...
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RE: American Eagle New Service Announced

Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:14 am

Does anyone know when the last 10-12 flights will be announced?

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