RaginMav
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CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:26 pm

Heard from NW CFO Bernie Han tonight, he spoke to a class I am taking. When asked about expansion in India, he mentioned current flights AMS - Delhi and Mumbai, one operated by KLM, one by NWA (not sure which is which). He turned to another NW employee with him and asked "have we announced anything else?" The response was no, he chuckled and said that there may be an announcement soon.

There is currently a direct MSP-BOM with a stop in Tokyo, could the announcement be a non-stop MSP- India, or the much more likely new-city-via-NRT thing?

NW may have aircraft issues that would preclude a non-stop. MSP-BOM is 6902 nm (great circle mapper) and a.net published 742 range is 6900+ reserves, so it would probably take a 744. Just how many of those does NW have?

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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:28 pm

I think the one-stop flight to BOM stops in AMS instead of Tokyo.

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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:29 pm

The flight from MSP to BOM is via AMS, not NRT.

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RaginMav
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:29 pm

I think the one-stop flight to BOM stops in AMS instead of Tokyo.

Ok yeah my bad

maybe the announcement will be via NRT then?????
 
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:37 pm

If NWA annouced NRT-BOM then we would have round the world service. All on NWA metal.
By the way what is your major? I am a Aviation Management Major at Eastern Michigan and currently work for NWA.
 
RaginMav
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:40 pm

By the way what is your major

Aviation Flight, U of NE @ OMA  Big grin
 
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:42 pm

Excellent, I saw in the company news that he would be visiting your campus.
 
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:43 pm

during winter NW was doing "double-double" to DEL and BOM. Shall be back to usual during summers, but might change due to recent open-sky policy between India and US.
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:58 pm

New Indian Open Skies treaty will see much new service. The question is, with so many new flight and carriers, is their enough business to make it profitable today?
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:03 pm

during winter NW was doing "double-double" to DEL and BOM.

Negative.

NW operates 2 daily AMS-BOM, but does not serve DEL on its own.

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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:40 pm

The question is, with so many new flight and carriers, is their enough business to make it profitable today?

Glad to herar that I am not on my own in regard to this question! Overcompetition is a dangerous phenomenon - there are many people only willing to pay cheap prices, without relizing what this can mean for a sector ar an economy as such - the LCC phenomenon in the US has lead to dangerous situations for UA, DL, US etc, who now face bancrupcy.. let's see, what will happen in Europe, and tehn Asia,.. only few players will survive

However, in regard to your question, it seems like the US-India offers enough secondary markets for more players to enter, so it looks like they can be very profitable. Since Indian careers will be able to offer cheaper prices (at least well-established AI), it looks like that rather India will benefit, since US-India is a market where primary perfect competition (=price) rules.

I think your question is a very good one and relevant for many markets, and I hope that we pax, who only want to save, save, save, think about this and what we are doing to the economy as such in always demanding everything cheaper - does this really make us happy? ,)
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:51 pm

during winter NW was doing "double-double" to DEL and BOM
I dont know about Del but at Bom they operate Two MD11s or DC10s,Seen them from a Distance.
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:10 pm

The NRT-BOM flight will be an excellent one,since BOM has no non-stop service to Japan.
However an even better one would be SFO/LAX--NRT--HKG--BOM.
As no non-stop service to HKG also from BOM
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:18 pm

NWA:

16 Boeing 747-451's.(answer to posters question) Also NWA was first the fly the 747-400.

AMS to BOM 2x DC10's during season. 1x in off season.
NWA's DC10's 26WBC 247Y. Only 243Y are sold per flight because of crew rest seats needed on any flight over 8 hours.

NWA has not served the AMS to DEL market since 9/11.


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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:02 am

NW may be up to 21 744's soon, but I havent heard the latest on the possible aqusation of 5 ex UA birds?????
 
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:10 am

NRT-BOM would be totally cool. Makes several different NW metal ATW routings possible:

MSP-AMS-BOM-NRT-AMS (or MSP-NRT-BOM-AMS-MSP)
DTW-AMS-BOM-NRT-DTW
SEA-NRT-BOM-AMS-SEA
PDX-NRT-BOM-AMS-MSP-PDX

I can think of several more....
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RE: CFO: NW India Announcement Coming Soon

Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:12 am

NW may be up to 21 744's soon, but I havent heard the latest on the possible aqusation of 5 ex UA birds?????

That's not happening, apparently. They were offered to NW for approximately 35 million apiece, but NW passed on them because of the cost reconfiguring them. That's a whale captain told me last week when he was commuting.
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