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What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 5:38 am

I'd like to see who can come up with some strange or odd routes, like flights to places you'd never expect an airline or an a/c type to use. Discontinued or currently in use, it doesn't matter.

I know I can think of a few.
YVR-San Jose, Costa Rica - CP A320, 9 hours! A very long flight for an A320! This was flown in the very early '90s-late '80s.

YVR-BOS CPA320 nonstop - used at least until CP got taken over by AC, I think it's discontinued.

GUM-CNS CO 757 This is a bit odd - A US airline going into Australia from Guam! 757s, oprated by Continental Micronesia are used, but they may switch to 737-800s.

HNL-Oakland, CA Aloha Airlines 737-800. I saw some info regarding this - the 737'd have to have ETOPS capabilities to do this.

Have fun!


 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 5:44 am

I know some airline, I forgot who 'tho, flew DC9's between SFO and OAK...
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 5:45 am

MCO-ATL-GCM: Not really odd, but out of your way. You have to fly north before flying south. I guess thats hubbing.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 5:55 am

I think it was UAL that flew between OAK and SFO but it was really just to relocate the aircraft.
 
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Svalbard

Wed Mar 29, 2000 6:27 am

Scandinavian Airlines and Braathens fly from Tromsø to Longyearbyen. Ever heard of these cities? No? Tromsø is a small city in northern Norway, and Longyearbyen is a small town on this big island far up to the North Pole! The route is flown with MD80/DC9 and 737 with a frequency of 2 or 3 flights each.

Geir, Norway
 
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Who The Hell Would Fly This

Wed Mar 29, 2000 6:42 am

Swissair flys from zurich to basel which is a less than 50 miles on Arjs ,330, and m80

A. Hemingway
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 6:47 am

I flew SR from ZRH to MUC on a MD-11. It was practically empty.
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 6:47 am

Qantas flew Sydney-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore return for quite some time using both the Boeing 747-300 and 767-300. After downsizing to a 767-300, QF still couldn't work out why its service was so unpopular not only with Malaysia-bound travellers (as they only flew 3 times a week) but with Singapore-bound ones too...Kuala Lumpur lies 45-minutes north-northwest of Singapore.

Malaysia Airlines has probably Southeast Asia's most bizarre route - Kuala Lumpur-Johannesburg-Cape Town-Buenos Aires. Undoubtedly Southeast Asia's ONLY service to South America is probably quite important to both countries but do those 747-400s really make much profit flying all that way twice a week.

EVA Air flies regularly from Taipei to Panama City - although it may not be so weird to know that Eva is owned by the giant Evergreen Shipping Group.


 
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RE: Who The Hell Would Fly This

Wed Mar 29, 2000 6:58 am

Here are a few, less well-travelled routes that I would love to try out:

Emirates from Dubai to Moroni (Comoros Is.), EK again Dubai to Peshawar (Pakistan) aswell as Islamabad and Karachi. Equipment on those routes could be anything they have free.

Malaysia Airlines' Kuala Lumpur-Johannesburg-Cape Town-Buenos Aires route (I've flown that one from JNB, one way on a 744, the return on a 742.)

SriLankan's L1011/A340 service from Colombo to Tokyo (Narita).

KLM's service, Amsterdam-Paramaribo (Surinam), and Air France's Paris-Cayenne service (French Guiana). KLM flies the 743 to Paramaribo, AF flies in a 742 to Cayenne.

Just two more I remember: TAP's A340 to Luanda (War-torn Angola-surprised the airport's still there!) and Iberia's 757 to Equatorial Guinea.

Sabena serves some pretty dangerous/dodgy cities in Africa, there pretty brave people!!

Cheers,
Tailscraper.
 
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RE: SR ZRH-BSL

Wed Mar 29, 2000 7:06 am

ZRH-BSL driving is more than 50 miles. I have done it both driving and flying. But now for an odd one:
Geneva GVA- Bern Belp. It is very short. It is with Air Engiandina. It is cheaper than a first class rail ticket GVA-Bern !

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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 7:20 am

Mas777 wrote:
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Malaysia Airlines has probably Southeast Asia's most bizarre route - Kuala Lumpur-Johannesburg-Cape Town-Buenos Aires. Undoubtedly Southeast Asia's ONLY service to South America is probably quite important to both countries but do those 747-400s really make much profit flying all that way twice a week.

i dont know how much profit they make but i heard that a flight from buenos aires to cape town costs as much as a flight from buenos aires to miami. british airways and luftansa also operate flights like this. they go from london or frankfurt to buenos aires, then to chile. both flights depart for chile at about the same time on a 744, its hard to imagine that those flights can be full with all of the other flights to chile during the day.
 
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For Tailscraper

Wed Mar 29, 2000 7:33 am

how was MAS' JNB-EZE service - busy?

(They tried to change the aircraft used on this route several times - but Cargo traffic is quite high - so this Summer - the 747-400 Combi will be used - and probably stay on the route. Silly me, didn't think that JNB/CPT-EZE may be rather busier than KUL-EZE!)

 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 8:39 am

Presidential Airways (the original one) used to fly from Washington Dulles to Hot Springs, VA (an airport in the middle of nowhere) using the BAE 146. Presidential also flew the BAE 146 from Dullles to Barbados NONSTOP. Other than that, ValuJet flew DC-9-20's nonstop from southern Florida to Boston (I would have used the MD80's they had) and Pan Am's Washington Dulles-Miami nonstop 747 service.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 8:54 am

20 years ago when I lived in Tahiti Lan Chile operated weekly service with a 707 between Santiago- Easter Island- Papeete. What would the need be to support that kind of route- Chili to Tahiti????

I dont know if LanChile still operates the Santiago to Papeete route or not, its been years since I have been in Tahiti.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 9:10 am

I almost forgot a really weird one that did nothing but loose Alaska Airlines money every time the a/c took off from Anchorage.
Anchorage- Magadan (Russia)-Khavorosk-Vladivostok-Magadan-Anchorage.

Later they Added Yhuzino-Sakalinsk somewhere in the mish-mash but discontinued all service a bit over a year ago.

They operated this route with their long range MD-83s that had to tanker every drop of fuel they could, usually limiting passenger load to about 70 and seriously limiting the belly load to ONE checked bag not over 70lbs per person and one carry-on. Crews had to carry CASH to pay for fuel and deal with ground crews who tried to steal cargo and bags right out of the belly of the a/c. At least a MD-83 at Max Gross (160,000lbs) is able to get off the runway better than a 737-400 at max gross (142,500) which is like driving a fully loaded cement truck.

Currently Reeve Aleutian Airways flies regular charters to the Russian Far East (Vladivostok, Yakutsk, Sakalin Is., Khavorosk) from Anchorage, sometimes via FAI to get that extra squirt of fuel in 727-100 combis and Lockheed Electras. There is some ancient equipment still doing a good job !!
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 9:34 am

1.)To see a B767 from Air New Zeeland in LAX is a pretty strange sight I think (I believe they island hop their way from Auckland, via Tahiti and Hawaii to LAX, or something like that).

2.)I saw a picture on airliners.net of a B737 from the German Carrier Happag Loyd in Australia (don't ask)

3.) Delta used to fly from Miami to Ft.Lauderdale (10 min flight)

4.) I also think that SAA flight between the US and South Africa is weird one; it makes sense, but I believe SAA is the only airline using the connection between N.America and S.Africa non-stop (exluding their code-sharing seats with Delta)

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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 9:42 am

A couple years ago this subject was dealt with on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. The entire article was on Continental's flight 950, which is still in existence. The flight was a 727, it's now a 737. It starts out in HNL and ends up in GUM. It makes about 8 stops or so, and the flight takes about 15 hours. I believe it first stops at the Solomon Islands. It then travels to Pohnpei, Truk, Palau, Kosrae and maybe Tinian as well (I know CO goes there). I'm surprised nobody has mentioned CO's entire GUM operation, not just GUM-Cairns. I know out of GUM Continental used to go to Cebu, Phillipines. But stopped it (possibly due to a volcanic eruption). They still go GUM-MNL. Last I checked CO still goes to Noumea, New Caledonia out of GUM. They also still go to Denpasar Bali Island Indonesia. They also travel to quite a few cities in Japan from GUM. As well as to Taipei and Kaoshieung in Taiwan (or at least used to). Long ago they went to Port Moresby if memory serves. I know Continental is still the largest employer in Micronesia. Contiental Express also goes to many little places in Mexico from Houston.

Of U.S. carriers CO has the most exotic routes.
 
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RE: Who The Hell Would Fly This

Wed Mar 29, 2000 9:43 am

dunno fly they would fly it, for the 330, it is probably going international from basel
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 9:48 am

The strangest (and funniest) routes I've ever seen were in the timetable of "Panhandle Central" Airlines, which found its way into one of the early classic National Lampoons in the 1970's.
This (non-existent) airline only flew between all the panhandles in the USA, and so had some wonderful routes like:
Juneau-Amarillo
Pensacola-Erie PA
Coeur d'Alene ID-Wheeling WV

Maybe WN would like to pick up some of these, now that "Panhandle Central" seems to have gone under!
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 10:01 am

Hong Kong-Guangzhou by China Southern Airlines. I see several flights a day in the Air Movements Timetable in the newspapers. There are plenty of corss-border ferries, buses and trains serving that route. Very short distance for a flight too!
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 10:35 am

CO-Micronesia is a very interesting, certainly the most ambitious overseas endeavor of any of the US domestics. They saw an underserved (or perhaps non-served) market and jumped in. I wonder if their S.Pac routes are profitable?

I believe that they still fly to Port Morsby and Noumea.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 10:45 am

Here are some of routes currently being flown by airlines that you wouldn't think would be flying them:
1. Los Angeles - Sao Paulo (Japan Airlines)
2. Los Angeles - London Heathrow (Air New Zealand)

2 years ago I was trying to fly Delta Airlines to Austin, TX. I took an MD90 from Salt Lake City to San Antonio. Had a stopover in San Antonio and the same plane made the VERY short hop to Austin. We basically took off, never attained cruising altitude, and were on the ground in 15 minutes.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 10:54 am

What about a flight we have gotten very familiar with over the last year: Egyptair from New York to Los Angeles (and vise-versa).

Boeing727

PS: Are they still flying this route, if yes what equipment, now that their #2 B767 is out of service???
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 11:51 am

Regarding Continental Air Micronesia


I'm certain CO flies from GUM to New Caledonia, I'm sure of that. I also pretty certain Port Moresby is not served anymore by CO. According to the article, those routes are very profitable. As a matter of fact the article went on to state that those intra-island routes were instrumental in keeping Continental afloat during their last financial crisis. Imagine that! Remember they have been flying those routes a very long time and have mastered all the intricacies of flying to these places with nonexistent airport infrastructure. At least that's what the article said. It also said that others have tried to challenge them but were unsuccessful. I just don't understand why they don't serve Tahiti, Tonga, or Pago Pago. I don't think they go to Somoa either. Incidentally, I don't believe the planes out there say "Micronesia" anymore by the CO name and logo. I know Continental's slogan in Micronesia is "Fly with the Warmth of Paradise." The article even said that the arrival of CO #950 is such an event that lots of islanders show up to greet the plane just for fun and something to do!
 
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Egypt Air

Wed Mar 29, 2000 11:53 am

Yes, Egypt Air still serves JFK-LAX using 777's.
727, L1011, MD80, A300, 777-200, 737-300, 737-700, 747-400, 757-200, 737-800, A320. E190, E135, 767-200, CRJ9
 
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Boeing727

Wed Mar 29, 2000 12:06 pm

It is, after the crash, a 777 flight.
 
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Continental Micronesia Plus More

Wed Mar 29, 2000 12:39 pm

Klwright69: CO Micronesia do not serve Samoa, Tonga, Tahiti, etc..coz...take a look at a map and see where these places are situated. US tourism to these places is very limited, there are next to no business ties between these countries and the US. Most of the flights out of these islands go to Australia, New Zealand and Fiji.

Delta15: Regarding ZRH-BSL only being 50 miles....look at LAX-BUR 38 miles and plenty of flights on United Express (road traffic must be hell huh?)

Woodsboy: SCL-PPT is still being operated these days. In fact, 20 years ago, LA used to operate this route to connect with QF flights from PPT to SYD....something the two airlines have cemented these days with a codeshare agreement.

Can't remember who mentioned it now: Hapag Lloyd 737 in Australia....was part of a world wide charter flight...we do actually also get Condor and AeroLloyd charters down this way too...so it is not all that unusual at all.

O.K.....weirdest routes of all time....here goes...



And this is only the routes that they operate now...some years ago, Air Nauru had the largest Pacific route network of all the airlines, they used to fly to Hong Kong, Tokyo, Honolulu, Samoa, PNG, Honiara and some of the other Polynesian islands, and all of these flights were operated with 727s or 737-200s (flights these days are operated by 737-400s)



They used to be the only airline that operated into Niue (absolutely beautiful island) but these flights are no longer either (damn it!!)

Nauru is only 8 square miles in size and only has 10,000 people....and it national airline has a route network which sort of makes CO Micronesia pale in comparison (in terms of unusual routes).

 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 12:58 pm

Years ago, NWT Air used to fly from Yellowknife (YZF) to Edmonton Municipal (YXD) then to Edmonton International (YEG) - it can't be more than 15 miles in a straight line between the two Edmonton airports. That segment took 8 minutes on the Electra, and was done so passengers could connect to flights at either airport.

First Air ran YZF-YOW, and was the longest scheduled flight in Canada. For a while, the plane actually originated in Edmonton (YEG) before flying to Yellowknife (YZF) then Cambridge Bay (YCB), Resolute Bay (YRB), Nanisivik (YSR), Iqaluit (YFB), and Ottawa (YOW). If you left Edmonton at 0700 you would arrive in Ottawa at 2300, almost 3400 nm later.

The route was done with a 727-100 Combi, then with a 737-200 Combi for a while.

 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 2:29 pm

I had the chance to fly some route sectors on airlines and aircraft that never thougth they would be serving or less, offering such good fares:

Buenos Aires-Santiago return:
Air France B747-400 (both flights quite full)
British Airways B747-400 (fairly fool)

London-Copenhagen-London
Varig MD11

London-Madrid-London
Aerolineas Argentinas B747

There are many other examples available:

Buenos Aires-Montevideo:
United Airlines B767-300
Air France B777
Lloyd Aereo Boliviano A310
Pluna B767

Buenos Aires-Santiago
Lufthansa B747-400

Buenos Aires-Sao Paulo
Swissair MD11
Canadian B767

Buenos Aires-Rio de Janeiro
Swissair MD11
Spanair B767
 
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RE: Egypt Air And JAL

Wed Mar 29, 2000 3:42 pm

LAX-JFK by EgyptAir - JFK is likely a fuel stop and also to pick up additional passengers going to Cairo, or to let for whom JFK is their final destination off after going from Cairo. I don't think a fully loaded 777-200 could go all the way from Cairo to LAX nonstop, much less a 767-200/300ER. Also due to cabotage laws, passengers cannot get off at JFK if going from LAX and vice versa. This was well pointed out by the media following the crash of Flight 990, a 767-300ER.(An EyptAir employee may have gotten off the flight in JFK prior to the crash and never came back to the plane.)

LAX-Sao Paulo - The JAL 747 is likely using LAX as a fuel stop. Even a 747-400 couldn't do NRT-Sao Paulo nonstop.

You can call it weird if you want to, but it's often normal practice for international carriers to stop at one or two international destinations before reaching the final destination - after all, that's how many carriers used fly around before the more fuel-efficient widebodies came along.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Wed Mar 29, 2000 3:50 pm

I was on a Bavarian Airlines flight from Palermo to Munich and we diverted to Tunis to pick up 2 pax.
Eq. was BAC111

Britania used to operate Adelaide/Melbourne/Bhutan(east of Singapore)Dubai/London Gatwick. Very Cheap.
Plus it's tight seating pitch and all ecomony I'm told

I'm told they stopped the service due to losses.
 
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XNV, You Forgot One!

Wed Mar 29, 2000 4:32 pm

You forgot one strange northern route system - Canadian North(CP's northern subsidiary) flies a 737-200C as Flight 448 from YEG departing at 9:20 am, and stops in Yellowknife(YZF), Rankin Inlet(YRT), Iqaluit(YFB) and finally arriving in Ottawa(YOW) at 9:50 pm! It's not as long as the one by NWT Air you mentioned, but CP North is still currently flying this route once a week. There is a return flight(CP449) in the opposite direction, too.
 
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Trying To Get From SFO To LAX

Wed Mar 29, 2000 4:54 pm

as a S/A passenger when traveling on a co. pass, its not uncommon to come up with well... lets just say interesting alternitives to get from point 'a' to point 'b'.
one example was when I tried going sfo to lax one time. flights were packed and it was recommended to me that I should go SFO-HNL-LAX! crazy, huh?! oh well, c'est la vie when you're an s/a!
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 4:04 am

Probably the strangest route ever advertised in an official timetable was published in the CPH Worldwide timetable 28 March 1999 - 30 Oktober 1999:

Copenhagen - Gotham City ( 5 daily flights and 2 via Metropolis)

This should be operated by Wayne Aviation with the Batcraft all series (according to the map in the timetable Gotham City must be somewhere between St. Louis and Minneapolis).

Real strange routes are :

Saudia at Washington Dulles with B747-400
China Airlines used to fly Taipeh - Dubai - Amsterdam - New York
Zurich - Munchen A330 (daily flight)
Kuala Lumpur - Dubai - Newark B777 MH
Eva Air from Taipeh to Newark

Regards
Laurens Janssen
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 4:05 am

Probably the strangest route ever advertised in an official timetable was published in the CPH Worldwide timetable 28 March 1999 - 30 Oktober 1999:

Copenhagen - Gotham City ( 5 flights nonstop and 2 flights week via Metropolis)

This should be operated by Wayne Aviation with the Batcraft all series (according to the map in the timetable Gotham City must be somewhere between St. Louis and Minneapolis).

Real strange routes are :

Saudia at Washington Dulles with B747-400
China Airlines used to fly Taipeh - Dubai - Amsterdam - New York
Zurich - Munchen A330 (daily flight)
Kuala Lumpur - Dubai - Newark B777 MH
Eva Air from Taipeh to Newark

Regards
Laurens Janssen
 
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RE: Egypt Air And JAL

Thu Mar 30, 2000 4:25 am

JAL does use LAX for a number of fuel/boarding stops (I believe they even make the short Las Vegas-LAX hop). However, you CAN purchase a ticket on Air New Zealand for a non-stop LAX-LHR flight. You can also purchase a ticket on Thai Airways for a nonstop LAX-NRT flight. Does anybody know if we have "open skies" agreement with New Zealand and Thailand? I'm pretty sure we don't with Japan...
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 6:42 am

1. Dnalor :

Britannia used to fly from Australia via Bintan, Indonesia - which was used because of cheap landing charges. The Indonesians built Bintan in the 1990s to compete with Changi and Kuala Lumpur - they certainly had HIGH hopes! I think Garuda still flies regular DC10s and 747s in to keep the airport 'in business'.

2. Laurens Janssen :
Kuala Lumpur - Dubai - Newark B777 MH
Eva Air from Taipeh to Newark

What's so wierd about these?


 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 7:59 am

The winter Glasgow - Copenhagen sector goes via Edinburgh. The 40 miles from Glasgow to Edinburgh takes about 15 minutes. a/c is a Fokker 100.

The shortest commercial air service in the world is the Loganair service from Westray to Papa Westray in the Orkney Islands, Scotland. Flown by a BN2A Islander, it takes 30 seconds from take off to touchdown
 
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RE: Who The Hell Would Fly This

Thu Mar 30, 2000 10:46 am

United uses a 757 on some of it's ABQ-DEN routes, but that is a cool thing though. Also, Delta uses a 737-300 on some of it's ABQ-ATL routes. And why would you want to fly for 45 mins. just to go to ELP or even LBB. , and why use a MD88 for a ABQ-TUC route.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 11:47 am

If anyone wondered how far Guangzhou from Hong Kong is, the route whiI thought was strange, it's about 100km. Very short for a flight.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 11:48 am

If anyone wondered how far Guangzhou from Hong Kong is, the route which I thought was strange, it's about 100km. Very short for a flight.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 12:38 pm

Every morning Delta uses a 142 psgr MD88 on a flight from PNS to MOB. The flight is only 60 miles and it seems kind of strange until you realize that the flight continues on from MOB to DL's DFW hub. Then, every night, the flight comes back from DFW, stopping at MOB and then continuing to PNS.

DL also offers a flight from ATL to PNS that continues on from PNS to BTR.
Its a strange route but I'm sure DL has their reasons.
 
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TUC-ABQ Delta Flight

Thu Mar 30, 2000 1:11 pm

This flight is strange, a MD88 used on a short distance flight. This flight lands in ABQ at around midnight and continues on to ATL.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Thu Mar 30, 2000 2:23 pm

A while back, my airline did a charter for a US Goverment. They wanted to move 98 people from OKC (Oklahoma City) to TYS (Knoxville, TN.) and move an additional 42 people from SJU (San Juan P.R.) to TYS.

Instead of having us fly OKC-TYS and ferry down to SJU and do SJU-TYS. They had us fly to OKC to pick up the first 98 and fly them ALL down to SJU and pick up the additional 42 and fly them all to OKC. When we got to SJU, no one was able to get off the airplane, so the pax were not thrilled about that... Especially the smokers, as it was a 4 hr flight from OKC to SJU and another 3+ hrs to TYS.

 
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RE: TUC-ABQ Delta Flight

Thu Mar 30, 2000 2:50 pm

That TUC-ABQ flight comes from DFW and ELP first. The ELP-TUS flight terminates in TUS and then goes to ABQ with a different flight #. The strange thing is, there is no return flight from TUS-ELP so if you wanna get back from TUS, good luck... you'll have to go to America West.
 
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RE: At Least In Mexico...

Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:58 am

Hi!

At least in Mexico the strangest routes:
Aerocozumel Shuttle
Cancún - Cozumel
(18 min. flight every half hour)
This flight is always full...
I don't know why if you could take the ferry from Cancún to Cozumel.

KLM 747-400
Amsterdam - Mexico City - Guatemala
There are daily flights from Mexico City to Guatemala with Mexicana, Aerocaribe and TACA. Most of them with DC-9, 727, and 737.
Why KLM flies to Guatemala from Mexico City... In a 747-400?

Joaquín  
Mexico City

¡Hola!

Por lo menos en México algunas de las rutas (que a mi parecer son de las más raras) son:

El puente aéreo de Aerocozumel.
Cancún - Cozumel
(Vuelo de dieciocho minutos de duración, salen cada media hora)
No entiendo porqué si uno puede tomar el transbordador de Cancún a Cozumel y llegar en una hora.

KLM 747-400
Amsterdam - Ciudad de México - Guatemala
Hay vuelos diarios de la Ciudad de México a Guatemala con Mexicana, Aerocaribe y TACA. La mayoría de ellos con DC-9, 727 y 737.
¿Por qué KLM vuela a Guatemala desde la Ciudad de México con un 747-400?

Joaquín  
Ciudad de México.
Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Fri Mar 31, 2000 6:30 am

Joaquin,

I've been on that KLM flight AMS-MEX-GUA. The reason why KLM uses a Boeing 747-400 Combi is because the flight originates in Amsterdam. Mexico is only a stopover on the flight to GUA.

That's is NOT really very strange....just like many of the postings on this subject...many international flights are multi-leg services so aircraft type are often not similar to those used by local airlines.
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Fri Mar 31, 2000 6:31 am

To answer the last question. KLM uses Mexico City as a stop on its flight to Guatemala. Before this route Mexico City had three nonstop flights to Amsterdam and, I'm not sure, 2 flights via Orlando (in the past KLM had a daily flight to Mexico via Houston but this was changed when Houston generated enough traffic). Then the economic crisis in Mexico came and the demand for air travel to Mexico diminished. As KLM discontinued Orlando (because the yield was to low) it changed its route to Guatemala (as far as I know the only airline flying with B747-400 to Guatemala) to make the flight more economical. Although I don't work for KLM (and thus don't know the exact details) another reason why KLM uses the B747-400 is that it can carry more cargo (most of the flights to Mexico are, as far as I know carried out by Combi's).


KLM has other short flights like these. For exemple Kilimanjaro or Arusha (Tanzania) to Dar es Salaam (Tanzania). This flight takes less tnan a hour and is only domestic flight operated with a MD-11 or B747 (unfortunately KLM does not have any traffic rights on this route).

Another exemple is Guayaquil to Quito (MD-11 four times a week).

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Laurens Janssen
 
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RE: What's The Strangest Routes You've Ever Heard Of?

Fri Mar 31, 2000 7:05 am

I remember being in Lima, Peru in 1974 when Air France used to fly a 707 on the Tokyo-Papeete-Lima route. I was at the airport one morning when the flight arrived and the overwhelming stench of rotting fish was everywhere...the wind was blowing inland from the port of Callao. Even after the 10-hr flight from Papeete, if I had been on that plane, I would have turned around and headed back!
 
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LJ

Fri Mar 31, 2000 7:29 am

I am not exactly sure what you mean by 'only domestic flight operated by MD-11 or 747', but JL and NH have been operating domestic Japanese flights for years with 747s. In fact, the 747SR was purpose built for the high density Japanese domestic market.

QF also operate 747s on domestic flights within Australia. PER-SYD being an example of this.

I am sure that there are more airlines that operate 747s on pure domestic services also.

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