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RobK
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New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:59 am

Hi all

Mexicana's next A318 XA-UBV was delivered today 11th Finkenwerder - Keflavik as 'MXA1101' on the first leg of its ferry flight.

Maybe of interest to someone.

Cheers,

Rob K  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:12 am

Thanks for the info Rob. Now that we know MX will be sold on its own and not merged with AM it'd be safe to say that MX will be a all-Airbus airline. Hopefully, the long-haul aircraft(s) that MX needs will be ordered soon.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:18 am

the next leg is probably going to be KEF-YUL, just like the last couple of A318's Mexicana got!

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:23 am

the next leg is probably going to be KEF-YUL, just like the last couple of A318's Mexicana got!

Thenoflyzone


Yes, that leg is correct according to the tracker I use.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:30 am

Are MX's A318s in service yet? If so, where to? If not, when is their first revenue flight with MX?

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:41 am

Hey,

RobK, I read all of your different Deliveries topics, Hehe

I love the A318, Probably my most favorite, So I'm happy to hear that another has been delivered.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:12 am

Yes, last Monday we had one @ YYZ
 
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:25 am

San747,

22 A318 are now in service in the world :

7 with Frontier.
9 with Air France.
6 with Mexicana.

Mexicana received its 2 first a/c in November last year.
 
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:36 am

I flew the MX A318 a couple of weeks ago!.. very nice..you normally wont notice the difference between the a318 and a319 unless you really pay attention to the back to notice less row of seats.

My question is, since the A318 are considered unprofitable because of the high CASM, why is MX getting them? apart from commonality, what it is the advantage?! (i dont want to hear that they were free or got 50% off)
 
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:30 pm

"apart from commonality, what it is the advantage?! "

They can use the A318 in low-density medium-long haul routes, like MEX-UIO-GYE, as they can send it in a domestic flight, or a mexican 3rd city-U.S.A. flight. In fact, the A318, having the A319 and A320, and soon A321, has a lot of advantages.

Good for MX!!!, in fact, they have right now the biggest A318/19/20/21 fleet in LatAm.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:50 pm

Yep arrived today, hope to see it in service soon.

Let´s see if APM got some pics  Big thumbs up
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:06 am

"Good for MX!!!, in fact, they have right now the biggest A318/19/20/21 fleet in LatAm."

How many A321 they have??????

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:52 am

So far, it is not yet official that MX will go for A321's. Well maybe it is official, but it has not been officially announced yet. As for the A318's, they are used for flights to Ecuador, for the additional flights to YUL that MX is adding (so I heard) and maybe they are used for flights that have less pax than the A319's.

I think commonality and range are the main reasons why MX decided to get A318's.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:19 am

EddieDude is right so as AM773, apart from the commonality, the aircraft serves very well low density medium-long haul routes, like UIO, GYE, ORD, YUL, YYZ, instead of taking an A320/319 with only 50 pax and losing some money, the A318 with the same 50 passengers makes money, and there are a lot of savings with the commonality of the fleet.

And for the A321 right now MX does not operate any, but there are supposed to arrive two in the next months.


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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:39 am

Hi Logan, I would only like to say that YYZ and ORD don't seem to me like low density routes. Especially ORD which is served very well by MX sometimes with 752's.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:26 am

TACAA320:

I think that with the "...and soon A321" comment, its obvious that they don't have YET any A321.

My apologies if I wasn't totally clear.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:40 am

Two second hand Airbus A321 are due for 1Q/05. They will be tested by the company. Now that some 757 are about to retire the fleet we will need something extra to fill the gap left by those B757.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:34 am

I thought that MX was not retiring any of its 752's yet (as opposed to AM that will see some of its birds leave its fleet).
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:18 am

Something I wasn't expecting also. N758MX will soon be retired followed by N755MX. At least the ones leaving are the oldest seven five's in our fleet.

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:46 am

I don't think they are adequate airplanes for flights such as MEX-ORD and MEX-LAX because of the altitude of MEX. I guess they will be used for MEX-CUN, MEX-MIA and stuff like that.

Of course I could be wrong.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:50 pm

MX´s B757´s are the best. And it was said that MX got a good deal to keep them all.

Are the N758MX and the N755MX the "No que no" and "Vamos por más"? Because, the were the first two B757´s with MX´s colors.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:20 pm

Among the many things I have learned at A.net is the fact that the A321 is not a good option for a high altitude & hot airport such as MEX.

I guess they will be used for MEX-CUN, MEX-MIA and stuff like that.

That would make sense, yet I wonder if would be money wise to get some birds you can't use in some routes even if you need their capacity/range.

Anyway, if they are coming to be tested I hope I would be able to fly them before they leave. It'd surely be nice to fly a MX A321!



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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:55 am

Hi everybody, EddieDude, about the A318 in ORD or YYZ, some flights are getting cancelled due to low demand on this days, even MX184 MTY-ORD and MX185 ORD-MTY is getting cancel almost everyday, today got cancelled with 8 passengers, so with some of those you put them on a A318 with the other 80 of the flight where they are protecting all of them, it makes money, also serves for testing the aircraft and arrange the permissions for the aircraft, right now XA-UBQ/UBR/UBS can fly to US and Canada, UBT, UBU only Mexico, and UBV is not flying right now.

About the A321, it will be used on high density routes, but the idea here, is not pulling it out from MEX full, (you can´t), so, you send it with not too much passengers to CUN or MTY or other cities, and return it full from those cities, where it can depart with almost no problem.

The 757 lease contracts where getting a little bit high, that´s why they are retiring the plane, and analyzing the A321; commonality here Big grin

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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:01 am

Good on MX. What a great carrier with prudent strategy! Excellent staff, and management alike. Mexico can be proud of their world class airline! Mexicana, the choice to Mexico. Congratulations.
 
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:08 am

Too bad that ORD is performing weakly at the moment. I recall that all the ORD-MEX-ORD flights I took when I was studying in Chicago were always full no matter what time of the year (I flew MX, AM and AA and this was true in all three cases). Hopefully it is just temporary.

About the A321, I hope to fly one of them as soon as they arrive! It would be awesome if MX had a special introductory fare to MTY so that I can go visit some friends while experiencing the long narrowbody.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:20 am

Hi friends....they Just start on looking on the A-321 and nothing confirmed yet.
They think that the aircraft Will fit perfect markets as MEX-CUN, MEX-LAX, MEX-ORD and MEX-SJO and the succesful charter market they started this year.
Airbus said that the aircraft will reach ORD, and LAX markets without problems departing Mexico city.
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RE: New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today

Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:32 am

Not sure about the CFM engines for the MX A321, mostly the decision will go for the IAE, it works really great with the A320, and for the weight that MX is planning to operate the A321, the "booster" or "thust bump" is a great "addition" to the aircraft, despite the fact that the use of it is restricted, it helps with a short runway and a very heavy loaded aircraft, but let´s see, there where some plans time ago to change the IAE powered A320´s for CFM ones, because of the engine commonality, but like i said before, the IAE is more powerful and have the "booster" option, that the CFM don´t.

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