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Update On New Barajas?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:20 pm


Spanish members,

Can anyone give me an update as to how close they are to opening the new terminals in Madrid Barajas? I have tried to get information and Aena nor any news sources say a thing about a possible timeline. I know the distribution of how the terminals will be serviced (T2 Skyteam, T4 Iberia...etc...) but just would like to know when the changes will be implemented and when everything will be up and running.
Regards to all
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spantax
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:12 pm

Hi, According to press reports in Spanish newspapers, it will be operating end 2005-beginning 2006. Best regards.
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dme
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:26 pm

Hello,

If you go and see AIS_Spain (www.aena.es, AIS, English and Spanish) they say they are going to open the new runways in April. As Spantax says, the new terminals are going to be open at the end of the year.

Regards,
Dme.


Pd. See http://www.aena.es/csee/Satellite?cid=1078418725163&pagename=AIS%2FHome_AIS&SMO=4&SiteName=AIS&other=1083158950596&Section=1&c=Page&MO=2&other2=1083857758835#ancla326
 
IBERIA747
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:30 pm

Hey!

Yes, it is more or less the way Spantax has explained.
The new terminals are supposed to be operative next October, but the most normal thing would be that it will be delayed once again.

The terminals are 100% finished as well as the 2 new runways. The only things pending are the airport access road network (about 60% complete) and the 2 small control towers for ground traffic (1 for each terminal) that were not included in the original design. Oh, and of course...the airlines have not started yet to install their stuff there.
¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
 
embraer145
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:22 pm

I've been there together with IBERIA747 one week ago, and I have to say: It's looking absolutely great. Specially when you are coming closer than you see how large the terminals are in real. You can see them sometimes in the background of Madrid-Barajas pictures in the DB. Notice that there are three or four floors under the surface.

And what IBERIA747 already wrote: A lot of construction still must be done for the access/exit roads for the passengers and airline/terminal employees.
Another strange thing they didn't think about is an extension of the subway. it now stops in Barajas. You can see the terminals but it is still a very long walk. There is a subway connection between both new terminals, but no connection to downtown Madrid and the old terminals. I think this will be a big problem for transfer passengers from intercontinental flights when they arrive in the actual terminal one. This terminal and the two new ones are the most far away from each other. Hopefully everything is solved and cleared before the new terminals are opened otherwise they will have a lot of start-up problems.

Oh almost forgotten: They have also forgotten a good viewing area for the increasing number of aircraft spotters/photographers around the globe. But unfortunately that's common in new terminal/airport designs.

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PDPsol
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:04 am

Guys,

I was reviewing the amazing videos/computer-generated images on the Madrid 2012 website and noticed several improvements are planned for MAD by the time the Games start. The high-speed AVE train is expected to have a stop at the airport [I assume at the new terminal] and regional and metro links are planned for the near future as well.

I suspect travelers may have to experience rather unweildly connections between the new/old terminals until these improvements are finished over the next five years or so.

Nonetheless, I must agree with Embraer145, the new terminals look absolutely STUNNING!! Unlike ANY other airport in Europe!!
 
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:54 am


IBERIA747, how are you my friend?

Thanks for all of the information guys...I was just curious cause the whole thing looks pretty much finished, so...just curious. I am really thrilled about the AVE, as I got ripped off about 2 years ago from a taxi driver who drove me from Barajas to Atocha and had charged me 50 euros for the damn ride...ripped me off, nothing I could do about it as I was just worn out from the long transatlantic trip and ready to get to Sevilla to see my family.
Regards to all
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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:10 pm

Yesterday when I flew into MAD, I got a view of the back side on T4 (the satillite one) and on the windows is painted the Iberia colors.

I look forward for the opening of the new terminals! Sadly I leave Spain on July 25 or the 30th to move back to New York, and they will not be open yet :-(

When you come up from the metro, there is an intersection they has moving sidewalks to take you to the different terminals, they have LCD screens showing you what the new terminals will look like. Very cool.

Can't Wait!
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blue22
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:45 pm

From what I heard, it seems that the two new terminals won´t have any kind of metro (subway) link...(no money). The pax will be transferred by bus,just the same buses that connect people with T1, T2 and T3.
 
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:54 pm

Blue22


I heard that they where extending the 8 line to continue to the new terminals, and then from Terminal 4 passengers going to Terminal 4 Satillite take an under ground monorail. Thats what I heard. To get from T1,T2,T3 to T4 I think you would take the conecting busses?
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IBERIA747
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:07 pm

The link between T4 and T4s will be an automatic train called "people mover". The distance between the 2 terminals is about 2 kms.

The link operations between the new terminals and the current ones (T1, T2, T3) will be carried out by buses at least for 1 or 2 years while the metro (subway) line is being built. It will be an extension of line 8, and as far as I know a date still hasn't been set for the construction works to start.
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blue22
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:08 pm

ALITALIAMD11

I heard about the monorail as well but then "authorities" said it would cost way too much so finally the same kind of buses that run inside the airport (ramp area) would transfer the pax to the T4.
Don´t think that´s the best idea but then again...!!
 
dme
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RE: Update On New Barajas?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:29 pm

You can see different views of the Barajas new terminals here -> http://www.fotoarquitectura.com/reportajes/barajas/index.html.

Regards,
Dme.