jetbluefan1
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JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:41 am

Since Airliners.net is all about speculating, I thought it may be interesting to speculate JetBlue's next destination from BOS (besides LAS and SJC). What do you think? How about additional frequencies to destinations already served from BOS?

Keep in mind that they are scheduled to go from their current 2 gates to 5 by this May

Also, does anyone know how advance bookings for BOS-LAS/SJC have been doing?

My guess for the next route is BOS-PHX. PHX is a bustling destination in the summer and so far B6 has been doing excellently on JFK-PHX. PBI will probably start in October, and then next January perhaps a 5x to FLL and 4x to RSW as both destinations from BOS are doing excellently.

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B6FA4ever
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:47 pm

as for FLL...unless we get another gate or 2 i doubt we'll see much more frequencies added from BOS since JFK is more of a money maker for FLL flights. i really do think SAN would be a good flight as well since we do get quite a few passengers driving up from SD county to LGB to catch our flight. i think MSY would be a good bet too.

i wonder if BOS-SEA would ever come about...? is there much O&D traffic between the 2 cities?

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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:53 pm

BOS-MIA wouldn't surprise me at all.  Wink/being sarcastic
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MSYtristar
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:06 pm

I think B6 would find success in the BOS-MSY market. AA's daily seasonal service does extremely well. B6 could easily capitalize on AA's success. There is enough O&D traffic (over 320 pax/day) to support both carriers offering a single nonstop each.
 
gothamspotter
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:53 pm

Can their A320s handle BOS-SAN? Great Circle Mapper measures this at 2588nm, and Airbus.com pegs the A320's MTOW range between 1900nm and 2600nm depending on the version.
 
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:04 pm

Gotham,

BOS-SAN would be in range for our A320's. BOS-OAK is our longest ranged flight in our system. granted in winter time our BOS-OAK flight does require a fuel stop but during any other time of the year the flight can be performed non-stop. same goes for LGB.

great circle mapper has the following ranges (also included are ranges from JFK for comparison):

BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) OAK (37°43'17"N 122°13'15"W) 2694 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) SJC (37°21'45"N 121°55'44"W) 2689 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) LGB (33°49'04"N 118°09'06"W) 2602 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) SAN (32°44'01"N 117°11'23"W) 2588 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) LAS (36°04'49"N 115°09'08"W) 2381 mi

JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) OAK (37°43'17"N 122°13'15"W) 2576 mi
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) SJC (37°21'45"N 121°55'44"W) 2569 mi
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) LGB (33°49'04"N 118°09'06"W) 2465 mi
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) SAN (32°44'01"N 117°11'23"W) 2446 mi
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) LAS (36°04'49"N 115°09'08"W) 2248 mi

if we did offer BOS-SAN, i'm sure every once in a while during winter would require a fuel stop but it can/will be performed non-stop.

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ei2ksea
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:07 pm

Where does BOS-OAK fuel stop during Winter?
Next Flight: DUB-BOS (EI), BOS-DEN-PDX (SWA), SEA-BOS (AS)
 
airbazar
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am

I think BOS-SDQ, and BOS-SJU would do really well.
 
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:54 am

the fuel stops we did from BOS-OAK occured in SLC...if fuel stops were to happen between BOS-LGB...it would usually be either DEN or LAS.

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FA4B6
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:58 pm

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I'm hoping our next moves at BOS are PBI, NAS, and PHX. Cant wait to see what the summer brings!
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rob2507
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:03 am

Summer traffic between BOS-SEA is usually pretty good thanks to the Alaska cruises. AA used to run nonstop a 738 year-round, and an additional 757 in the summer, and AS uses a 739 for their daily flight. No more nonstops on AA this year though (which could always change, but the last timetable I looked at didn't have any)...I would think it would be a good market for B6 (at the very least seasonal), especially where there's not IFE on AS.
 
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:10 am

Seems like AA is dropping a lot of routes lately from JFK and BOS, and we're there ready to snatch them up. How come AA dropped BOS-SEA and why would it work for JetBlue?

From To Distance
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) OAK (37°43'17"N 122°13'15"W) 2694 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) SAN (32°44'01"N 117°11'23"W) 2588 mi
BOS (42°21'52"N 71°00'19"W) SEA (47°26'56"N 122°18'34"W) 2496 mi
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LH423
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:26 am

Quoting FA4B6 (reply 11):
How come AA dropped BOS-SEA and why would it work for JetBlue?


Simply said...AS have kicked their ass. AS announced the service in co-operation with AA shortly before AA announced their own service. AS flourished starting with a daily 73G before upping it to a 739 and then adding a seasonal red-eye. I think it has to do with the fact that AS have such a loyal base in the Pacific Northwest that has made this flight so popular.

I've even heard rumours of a 3rd flight, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:31 am


Quoting LH423 (reply 12):
Simply said...AS have kicked their ass. AS announced the service in co-operation with AA shortly before AA announced their own service. AS flourished starting with a daily 73G before upping it to a 739 and then adding a seasonal red-eye. I think it has to do with the fact that AS have such a loyal base in the Pacific Northwest that has made this flight so popular.


Well then I'm sure B6 would be very successful at it then. AS is obviously very successful at SEA, but B6 is gaining momentum at BOS and plus I think B6 has a better product then AS.

B6 would probably start with a redeye.
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LH423
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:39 am

Probably. B6 would cater to BOS travellers while AS would cater to SEA travellers.

I think the only hinderance to B6 would be that it seems you haven't caught on with business travellers in Boston as much as you have with the leisure crowd heading to Florida or SoCal. AS succeeds on the route because it's also an AA codeshare. So, Ms. American Execplat in Boston can book the flight and get his American miles just as Bill Gates and book his AS flight from SEA and get Alaska miles.

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tu154
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:51 am

As a frequent flyer on JetBlue, I have to disagree with you FA4B6. I really think AS has a better product than B6 and have to agree with LH423 that JetBlue has not caught on with the business traveller. As I said, fly on B6 quite often, at least 3 times per month and really only see the leisure crowd so B6 will flourish in the leisure market. B6 has a good product as is expanding fast so who knows. (kind of reminds me of Air Florida in a way...remember what happened to them?) B6 has found a niche in the leisure market and should expand on that, leave the business market to the other airlines.
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:59 am


Quoting Tu154 (reply 15):
As a frequent flyer on JetBlue, I have to disagree with you FA4B6. I really think AS has a better product than B6 and have to agree with LH423 that JetBlue has not caught on with the business traveller. As I said, fly on B6 quite often, at least 3 times per month and really only see the leisure crowd so B6 will flourish in the leisure market. B6 has a good product as is expanding fast so who knows. (kind of reminds me of Air Florida in a way...remember what happened to them?) B6 has found a niche in the leisure market and should expand on that, leave the business market to the other airlines.



Im not sure where you fly on us to/from, but we have a lot of business flyers that use B6, just not at BOS yet because of the type of destinations that we serve from there.

But from JFK we have tons of business flyers .. especially to upstate NY and California. Getting them to turn their laptops off for arrival is like taking candy from a child lol .. believe me, I see them everyday.
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:10 am

I think in the future maybe:
BOS-PHX
BOS-PBI
BOS-SJU
BOS-SEA
and maybe with the E-190s a BOS-BUF/ROC or a BOS-JFK-Then on to BUF/ROC. (DON'T Quote the BOS-JFK, please not another argument on shuttle or not. it was just a thought regarding BUF/ROC)

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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:14 am

I think in the future maybe:
BOS-PHX
BOS-PBI
BOS-SJU
BOS-SEA
and maybe with the E-190s a BOS-BUF/ROC or a BOS-JFK-Then on to BUF/ROC



I can see all of those routes in the next year or year and a half. Excellent route suggestions! I think Jet Blue can clean up in all of those markets and send AA and or Song packing!
 
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:30 am

Do you think B6 wants to go head-to-head with America West on the BOS-PHX route? At a later date maybe. I think for starters there are other routes where they could do better, mainly SJU and SDQ.
 
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:36 am

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Do you think B6 wants to go head-to-head with America West on the BOS-PHX route? At a later date maybe. I think for starters there are other routes where they could do better, mainly SJU and SDQ.


And you think it's a wise decision to go head-to-head with AA on these routes out of BOS, where AA has no competition??????
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RE: JetBlue's Next Move At BOS

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:40 am


Quoting Airbazar (reply 19):
Do you think B6 wants to go head-to-head with America West on the BOS-PHX route? At a later date maybe. I think for starters there are other routes where they could do better, mainly SJU and SDQ.


Well Airbazar, we currently go head-to-head with America West on other routes. JFK-LAS, JFK-PHX and this summer BOS-LAS. So why would BOS-PHX be any different?
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