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Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:45 am

Pan Am will start serving BDL as Clipper Connection operated by Boston-Maine Airlines. They will be serving BDL to both Orlando Sanford and Ft. Lauderdale 3 times a week. Prices are ranging from $49 each way to Orlando and $115 each way to Ft. Lauderdale.

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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:47 am

Pan Am has been flying to Hartford for a few weeks already.
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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:47 am

That's cool.. we (RDU) recently had a Pan Am Clipper Connection flight on Saturday morning.. it was a 727, but I think it was just a charter.. but it was from BDL..
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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:55 am

Is this new route using 727 service?
 
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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:53 pm

Speaking of Pan Am, can someone please update me on whats going on? For some reason I see it listed at JustPlanes as defunct in late 2004 yet the website still seems to be up and running... Confused
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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:42 pm

Looks like they're taking an Aer Lingus approach to things for now, ie charter flights only or leasing out the Boeings for the winter season, which is mostly slow. I don't think the current owner of the Pan Am title is willing to give up on the airline just yet, and if the 727's are still in operation, then thats a very good sign that maybe the "take the off-season off" ideal is one way to go. Maybe this next summer, we'll see the services upgraded again to the 727s.

Any more sightings?

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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:49 am

MAH4546- they haven't been flying yet, their first regular flight start on Febuary 17th. They will be using B gate 2 and their counter is located right next to Indy Air.

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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:09 pm

>For some reason I see it listed at JustPlanes as defunct in late 2004 yet the website still seems to be up and running...<
It's a bit complicated, I'll try to summarize it quickly: Guilford Transportation, the owner of PA III and Boston-Maine Airways, thought their pilots earned too much, demanded pay cuts, and when ALPA wouldn't talk about that, Guilford drove PA into the ground. Some months later, part II of their plan became a reality when they announced that Boston-Maine would do the 727 flying of the former PA III, in PA colors, but not on former PA routes, because ALPA might have taken legal actions if they did. So now you see Boston-Maine Airways dba Pan Am on routes like BDL-FLL, with too few frequencies to scare the established carriers, using 727s flown by pilots that earn wages on the level of regionals, for mainline equipment, mind you. All in all, a big screwjob by Guilford.

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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:53 pm

2nd Pan Am flight to RDU... 1st was last week from BDL..

Airline Pan Am Clipper Connection
Flight Number 5550
Departure City (Airport) San Juan, PR, Puerto Rico (SJU)
Departure Time 02/15/2005 05:05 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU)
Arrival Time 02/15/2005 07:11 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type B727
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived
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RE: Pan Am To Start BDL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:26 am

A few corrections:

1. The managment at Pan Am III never asked the pilots for pay concessions.

2. Pan Am ceased operations on 31 OCT 2004 and has not resumed service.

You are right..it was a royal screw job by the Pan Am managment and ALPA has sought legal recourse to stop Boston-Maine Airways from flying B727's in scheduled service as Pan Am clipper connection.

I wouldn't go buying a ticket on them because the courts may just shut the whole thing down.

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