747400sp
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Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:35 pm

I called these four planes, the the Pan Am Super clippers because they were the biggest land airliner of there time. They were ahead of there time, and in my opine they are classics.With the last of the super clippers the B747 slowly being retired, I wanted to hear some fund memory of a flight on one of these airliner.

 
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:05 pm

I cannot tell you how it was to fly the above named aircraft. But I will give you a story.

In 1988, I was hired by Pan Am as a "D" check sheetmetal/structures mechanic on 747's at JFK. The first 747 I worked on was N737PA. Structures was not for me, I quit, and moved to California. 5 years later, I got a temporary job disassembling aircraft, at Norten AFB. One of them was a Middle-Eastern 747. But she had a Pan Am log book folder. I peeled off the (literally) duct-taped Sel-Cal plate to discover...she was ex-N737PA. BTW she was "HK DG". Along with my pics of 737PA in Hangar 19, I have her Sel-Cal plate. I am glad that I have it.

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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:57 pm

they were the biggest land airliner

The 317 was the largest flying boat in the Pan Am Fleet.

It opened up the Atlantic, and was the first civil airliner to complete a round the world flight.
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:31 am

I don't mean to sound ignorant but...what is a B-317? Do you mean a B-314??
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:07 am

IFIXCF6,

What is the Sel Cal plate? Is that the same thing as a planes data plate? I have come to find out those can be the kind of thing that may be nice to hold onto, especially when an aircraft dies. Out in the Evergreen Museum, they sell Spruce Goose data plate replicas that look very authentic and its one of my favorite collection pieces.
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:09 am

Otto,
SELCAL is a chime that goes off when someone is trying to contact you on VHF. Each a/c has its' own set of SELCAL letters. If I had an a/c out over the Atlantic and wanted to talk to him, all I'd have to do is activate his SELCAL and then wait for him to answer.

Ed
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:15 am

Jetmek319,
It was the B-314. They were kept at a hangar on Manhasset Bay on Long Island's north shore. The old rails that were used to bring them out of the water are still there today, although the buildings are long gone.

Ed
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IFIXCF6
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:41 am

OttoPylit,

SelCal is Selective Calling. Only if your selcal box is programmed for the code (i.e. "HK DG") will your chimes sound. It allows a company to speak to an individual aircraft.

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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B

Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:08 pm

I don't mean to sound ignorant but...what is a B-317? Do you mean a B-314??

No. It's the B-317. But it hasn't been built yet.

You see, Airbus will in the future shrink the A-318 further into the 90-seat A-317, with an extended range that can operate transatlantically. F9 is the launch customer and it intends to use the A-317 to fly to europe from DEN.

Before the A-317 is built, however, Boeing will buy out Airbus. Boeing doesnt really want the A-317 but builds it anyway as the B-317. F9 is the only major customer because Boeing has no marketing skills even though it turns out to be a fantastic aircraft.

Boeing will be unable to maintain the B-317 line due to lack of orders. B-317 dies a quiet death after NW decides not to buy it as a replacement for the DC-9

[Edited 2005-02-16 04:09:08]
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:36 pm

I meant B 307 stratoliner which is a land plane.
 
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RE: Pan Am Super Clippers B 317, B 377, B707 And B747

Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:00 pm

ACAfan--Ahhhhh...I see now!


747400sp---I think that both the B314 and the B307 were just about the sexiest planes around! Real clean lines that projected an image of power! Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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