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Thu Mar 30, 2000 1:40 pm

I'VE noticed on a Virgin A340-300 the words "NO WAY BA/AA" near the rear of the plane. I take it this is something to do with British Airways & American Airlines. Don't understand why they would even be bothered to put that on. I have nothing against Vigin Airlines. I have just never seen that before on other aircraft.
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Thu Mar 30, 2000 2:54 pm

Virgin Atlantic have written this on all their aircrfat ever since they won a libel settlement with BA over a dirty tricks campaign in 1993. BA allegedly tampered with Virgin's reservation system and stole their passengers. It originally was 'No way BA', but after the BA-AA alliance came into effect, it has since been changed to 'No way BA/AA'

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Thu Mar 30, 2000 6:24 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was actually a slogan in protest of an important codesharing/otherwise co-operating agreement between BA and AA, which would result in, let's say, a "not so common" situation of competition with VS.

That's the way it was explained to me. Can someone verify or rectify?

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Thu Mar 30, 2000 8:20 pm

Tri Star is right. The slogan apeared on Virgin planes in reaction to the proposed alliance between AA and BA.


Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:17 am

Which, in summing up what VH just wrote, was nixed by US and UK regulators as they felt, despite arguments to the contrary by AA and BA, would guarantee a virtual lock on Heathrow with no chance for competitors (like Virgin) to operate.

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Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:48 am

Apart from Virgin I've also noted various Easyjet aircraft sporting 'protest' titles, especially aircraft operating out of Athens and Zurich/Geneva in Switzerland.The Greek aircrafts titles are in 'protest' at Greek travel agents but I cannot remember what the Swiss aircraft are 'complaining' at.
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Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:57 am

Recently flew on an EasyJet 737 sporting 'Stop Go' - reference to BA's low cost subsidiary.

A year or so ago also flew a Britannia 757 with a banner lobbying for keeping Duty Free Sales within Europe.

Needless to say the Britannia titles proved a waste of paint as I suspect will EasyJets.
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Swiss Easy Jet Slogan

Fri Mar 31, 2000 2:03 am

The slogan on Swiss Easyjet says in French "Swissair a Monopoly, No!"
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Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:43 pm

If Tristar is right, the book that I spent $70.00 Australian (approx. $42.00 US) to get tells lies.

For $70.00, I could have bought 3 nice Herpa models! What a waste of hard earned cash!

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Fri Mar 31, 2000 1:10 pm

if i am right it is a protest for AA and BA's codeshare with each other, i don't understand why VA cares, they have United so there
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Fri Mar 31, 2000 3:27 pm

One of the reasons why Virgin was protesting against AA and BA is because they have more gates than any other airlines and if they went for the codeshare than the two carriers would be monopolizing the gates at Heathrow. It's already difficult for Continental, TWA, Delta and US Airways to get gates at LHR with the Bermuda 2 agreement. We don;'t need two airlines taking up much needed space that other airlines need. Keep in mind that Richard Branson said that After Pan Am and TWA left LHR for financial purposes; Branson suggested to the airport authority to put the slots in a pool so all airlines can be eligible. British Airways didn't like the idea and thats when the dirty tricks campaign started against Virgin by stealing their customers and BA'S Lord King saying alot of negative things about Virgin with the press. BA wanted the gates to themselves in order to have more control over LHR. After all which airline wouldn't love to fly to LHR; it's much closer to London than Gatwick and a bit more conveniantly located. I flew Virgin because of a problem I and my parents had with BA fas and ticket agents. Mainly poor service, old planes (747-100 and 200 between LHR-IGA and LHR-JFK) As well as some racist flight attendents that got very nasty with me and my family during a recent JFK-LHR flight. At least Virgins FAs don't use the sentences such as "Who the bloody hell these New Yorkers think we are!?! their servants!?! Or my fav " These damn hindus" I thought their job was supposed to be helping people not making remarks of where I'm from or my ethnic backround. Keep in mind that Virgin took the one of the first steps with the help of the late King Hussein of Jordan of freeing the British nationals from Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War. Branson himself went to Iraq with a flight crew on a 747-200 full of supplies to trade for the hostages. Did BA try to make the same effort. No Instead Lord King yelled "Who the hell does Richard Branson think he is!?! Part of the bloody foreign office!?! Instead of becoming part of the solution Lord King chose to be part of the problem

AOM/Air Liberte

Fri Mar 31, 2000 4:05 pm

AOM also sported protest titles a couple of years back on an MD-83

'Je veux rester a Orly Ouest' = 'I want to remain at Orly West'

I think that Air Liberte may have done the same thing.

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One of Virgin's 'NO BA/AA' (plus Austin Powered on the same plane)

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Two of EasyJets (do these guys do anything but complain???)

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Sat Apr 01, 2000 5:24 am

I agree with you. It should not be any service employee (or anyone's really) place to judge people based on such things as ethnicity or background.

However, I gotta tell you. I flew into LHR last year and to call it "convenient" is a stretch. That's a long ride, and that's coming from a New Yorker who has to deal with JFK. The observation deck was awsome though!
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