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Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:41 pm

Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 777 has finally started to show up in the schedules; effective 30Oct05 it will fly AKL-SFO three days a week, increasing to 5 or 6 days a week a month later. It's NOT in the schedules (yet) for any domestic, Trans Tasman or Asia flights.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:48 pm

Thanks for that The777Man. I wonder when will be the first trans-tasman training flight.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:33 pm

Can't wait for it to show up in Japan sooner or later.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:00 pm

Thanks for the news! I can't wait to fly those lovely "suites" up front, and IFE on NZ for the whole cabin...

I flew Virgin UC suites last Thanksgiving and the seats were wonderful (but VS service and meals are a bit disappointing)! However, with NZ great meal services, I have faith on the success of this new J product.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:48 pm

SFO is scheduled to increase to 6 weekly from November 29th.

Quoting Carpethead (reply 2):
Can't wait for it to show up in Japan sooner or later.


Not sure you but you may have to wait a little while for that to happen, as I understand KIX will stay mainly 763 for the near term and NRT will get 744 and 763, this is mainly due to a lack of competition on the Japan-NZ route.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:10 pm

I have read it will also show up in Singapore.

What are the chances we will see it on any Australian flights?

Brisbane or Melbourne perhaps?
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:00 pm

Quoting Zizou (reply 5):
What are the chances we will see it on any Australian flights?

Guaranteed. Expect it on similar type roles as the NZ 744 Flight to BNE before returning to AKL for the LAX-LHR evening flight. I think MEL is getting the flights that the first one will fly, before returning for the SFO sector. SYD later on I think.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:08 am

Hi guys,

The first 2 777's will be flying daily AKL-MEL and AKL-BNE flights until October 30th for crew training etc. If you look at my signature it has the arrival dates of the first 2 aircraft.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:14 am

Quoting NZ1 (reply 7):
The first 2 777's will be flying daily AKL-MEL and AKL-BNE flights until October 30th for crew training etc

NZ1, Do you have any idea on when these training flights will start as I might see if I can be on the first B777 flight
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:19 am

At this stage around October 4th, AKL BNE
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:30 am

Quoting NZ1 (reply 9):
At this stage around October 4th, AKL BNE
Sweet, thanks NZ1
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:39 am

The classes available on the 772 are listed as business and economy - no mention of premium economy
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:08 am

V2fix...........

In another thread the config. was given as 26-J; 18-Y+ and 269-Y with Y having a 32" seat pitch.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:45 am

I heard from an AirNZ Sales Rep. that the second route for the 777, would be CHC-LAX. Also the 744's are getting the new interiors, so as low season approaches and a 744 is pulled, LAX-CHC goes to 1 x weekly.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:52 am

Any idea when it will show up in HKG or SIN?
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (reply 4):
SFO is scheduled to increase to 6 weekly from November 29th.


And on 30 January 2006, it is scheduled to increase to daily.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:10 pm

Quoting SunriseValley (reply 12):
In another thread the config. was given as 26-J; 18-Y+ and 269-Y with Y having a 32" seat pitch.

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I think what V2fix means is why isn't premium mentioned yet in the booking/schedules, not what the config will be.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:57 pm

Quoting ZKSUJ (reply 14):
Any idea when it will show up in HKG or SIN?


I'd say march 2006 at the earliest.


Quoting MAH4546 (reply 15):
And on 30 January 2006, it is scheduled to increase to daily.


Cool, wasn't aware of that.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:12 pm

I looked at the seatmaps in Apollo and I was surprised and dissappointed that the configuration in Y will be 3-4-3. Configuration in C will be 2-3-2.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:57 pm

The 777Man that is rather disappointing that the configuration in Y is 3 4 3, especially with a pitch of the standard 32" as 777ER said ! EK has the same config, but their pitch is more generous...
the generous pitch is one of the things that i like about NZ Even without IFE, the pitch and the service provided by NZ in Y make it my choice over others.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:03 pm

I am not convinced that this will be the config of the new 777s. First of all C will not be 2-3-2 as the 777 will feature the new 'suites'. The lay out will be 1-2-1. Most likely the new premium Y class will be 2-4-2 as seen on BA. Weather the normal Y will be 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 I don´t know, but my best guess is 3-3-3 bearing in mind that NZ has always had a good Y product.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:07 pm

Wow they never seem to get it right. 34 in pitch with no IFE, now 32 in 3-4-3 with IFE.

Not sure which I would rather...
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:05 pm

Wow they never seem to get it right NZ got the Domestic, Trans-tasman and Pacific Express all correct


34 in pitch with no IFE, now 32 in 3-4-3 with IFE. Seating will be 34 inch, with IFE. Config will be 2-3-2 (Source: Air NZ pictures and info)

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[Edited 2005-02-18 12:06:02]
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:09 pm

777ER: i understood that while the 744 will be 34" with IFE, the 772's will be 32 with IFE?

Why 3-3-3? 2-5-2 (as discussed to death elsewhere...) is much better.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:12 pm

Quoting Zonky (reply 23):
i understood that while the 744 will be 34" with IFE, the 772's will be 32 with IFE?
Thats all I got from NZs web-site
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:32 am

So will the refitted 744s initially be introduced on NZ1/2. I am flying LHR LAX mid Novemner - can i safely assume I will get a refitted 744 then???
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:24 am

Confirming that the Apollo seatmaps are incorrect and the config for Economy will be 3-3-3/

As for 3-3-3 vs. 2-5-2, the majority of passengers prefer the 3-3-3 configuration.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:39 am

767ER-I may be wrong but I think the AKL-SFO route will be the first to get the refitted 744s followed by the NZ1/NZ2 planes
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:17 am

ZKSUJ

I imagine so but have a feeling once the 772s commence AKL SFO the refitted 744s will be rotated on NZ1/2 then NZ5/6.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:11 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (reply 27):
767ER-I may be wrong but I think the AKL-SFO route will be the first to get the refitted 744s followed by the NZ1/NZ2 planes

AKL-SFO will be the first route to get the B772s, which will lead to daily services from 2006.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:18 pm

Thanks, TG992 for clarifying this! I'm relieved ! 3-3-3 is the best configuration in Y in my opinion.

I guess Apollo still shows the 744 seat map for those flights. Hopefully NZ's website will soon have a seatmap of the 777-200ER.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:50 pm

Quoting The777Man (reply 30):
Hopefully NZ's website will soon have a seatmap of the 777-200ER.

NZs web-site doesn't show the seat map for its aircraft
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:04 pm

Quoting 777ER (reply 31):
NZs web-site doesn't show the seat map for its aircraft


Actually, they do. An example:

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/trave...ne/seating/boeing_747400_popup.htm

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:19 pm

Quoting The777Man (reply 33):
Actually, they do.

Oops thanks. I only looked on the 'About us-fleet' page
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:33 pm

Quoting TR (reply 20):
Most likely the new premium Y class will be 2-4-2 as seen on BA.


From my understanding, Premium Economy will use the same seats as Economy, but with a greater pitch (39"/40" I believe).

The economy class pitch in the 777s will be 32", but will remain at 34" in the 747s. Business class, because of the suites, will be in a 1-2-1 configuration like TR said.

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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:06 pm

Any chance the 772s would be used for flights to/from HNL (ANZ010/009)? When my friend returned to AKL, her flight was oversold, and ticket agents were asking for any volunteers, not too many takers as ANZ010/009 operates 2x a week. Seems like a 772 could alleviate the over selling issue.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Bluewave 707 (reply 35):
Any chance the 772s would be used for flights to/from HNL

If the HNL sector is flown by B763ERs then yes, B772ERs will eventually replace them. If its flown by the B744 then you will have to wait till the B773ERs start to replace then B744s about 2010-2012
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:18 am

Quoting 777ER (reply 36):
If the HNL sector is flown by B763ERs then yes, B772ERs will eventually replace them. If its flown by the B744 then you will have to wait till the B773ERs start to replace then B744s about 2010-2012


AKL-HNL has never been a 744 on a regular basis. There will be a third 763 flight this winter, though I thought it was 3 now.

Also surely HNL will be a future 787 route and will stay as a 763 until NZ recieve the 787.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:33 am

Both are supposedly true, that SFO will receive the first 777, but also be the first dedicated refitted 744 city, I heard June sometime for the refitted 744, then shortly there-after, late-October? we should see the new 777, then going, to 6 x weekly in Nov. It was told to me by a AirNZ sales person in LA, that the 777 was put on SFO first, so they could justify the increase in frequency, even though this has apparently been one of the most well received new routes for AirNZ in a long time, with very high load factors. Way to go NZ! Can't wait to see and experience the new 777 and the inside of the 744's after refitting.
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:08 pm

777-I am pretty sure that the only NZ 747s that went to HNL were the 742s and that was a while ago.
 
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RE: Air New Zealand (NZ)'s 772 In Schedules Eff 30Oct

Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:17 pm

I did a 742, must be arounf 16 years ago, - LAX-HNL-NAN-AKL

All that changed with the advent of the *A and codeshares!

The LAX-HNL flight connected with the LHR-LAX leg of NX2 and then carried on taking the 'scenic route' down to AKL. In fact I as I remeber it it was nice new shiney 744 from LHR and, by then, a rather shabby looking 742 from LAX.

The flight was busy, but with lots of surfing dudes heading towards HNL. The FAs had to keep making annoucements to the effect that sleeping in the gangways was against FAA regulations !! Not sure it make much of an impact.
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