emrecan
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Why No More 747 Orders?

Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:28 pm

Why don't the airlines order 747s these days??
do you have any idea about it?

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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:34 pm

Where to start?

They are still buying freighters in respectable numbers and - if Boeing keep making it - they will do for some time to come.

But you are right that sales of the passenger model are dwindling. Boeing themselves would say that it proves their theory that airlines and passengers want point-to-point flights on necessarily smaller planes.

Another factor is that there are now credible alternatives. The A340-600 and 777-300ER can carry (almost) as many pax as the 747.

It may also be that it's just showing its age. (Aren't we all?) After all, it's basically a sixties design.
 
Scanorama
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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:52 pm

A380, A340 and B777 spell the end of the B747. After all B747 is a 1960s design, while B777, A340 and A380 are much more recent designs. And there are plently of second hand B747s to choose from.
 
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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:13 am

Emrecan, just check the seat capacity of modern planes and compare to the 747. There's not that big difference. So, as Scanorama already wrote, airlines choose modern fuel efficient planes such as 330, 340 and T7.

If B doesn't build the 747 ADV, they can forget the production line for the 747 - but I'm sure they will build the ADV.
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Spike
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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:23 am

Correctb me if I'm wrong, but the 747 should be the LCCs aircraft of choice. Plenty in the desert, high volume pax load, flies like one, and popular with passengers. The 747 is the LCC A380 or the Japs have got this wrong over the decades.
 
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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:35 am

 
eilennaei
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RE: Why No More 747 Orders?

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:55 am

Long story short:
1) cargo operations are increasing at a far faster rate than passenger operations, and offer better yield;
2) used gargo-configured/configurable 747s are available in numbers
= the need for new passenger 747s is low relative to supply.

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