milan320
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Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:35 am

A week or two ago, I was watching the news here in Canada and a segment came on about the proposed 150 seater C-Series by Bombardier (the segment actually consisted of where it will be built as there are some problems with that - see link below for those interested).
Anyway, they showed a computer generated graphic of the plane and flight-deck and I was surprised to see a side-stick instead of the yoke. Is that the proposal, that the C-series might consist of a side-stick now?

As for the link I mentioned above (including some interesting specs, but no mention of a sidestick) here it is:

http://www.ainonline.com/issues/02_05/02_05_bombardiercseriesp57.html

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columba
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:02 am

Actuallly they said right from the beginning that the C-Series is supposed to have a sidestick. Maybe they were aiming for LH as a launch customer.
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CRJ200Mechanic
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:01 pm

I work for Bombardier. That article was a big deal around here. The orders for the CRJ200 are slowing down and if I remember right Canada's currency changed to were it equals more than ours. not sure though. Money is becoming tight. Anyway, the C-series was always going to have a sidekick. We are trying to compete with the ERJ 170/175 190/195
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:42 pm

[quote=CRJ200Mechanic,reply=2] The orders for the CRJ200 are slowing down and if I remember right Canada's currency changed to were it equals more than ours. not sure though. Money is becoming tight.
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Canada's dollar has jumped from around 65 cents US to over 80 cents in under 2 years. I seem to recall one of the things that Albuquerque was trying to woo BBD with was lower labor/production costs than available in Canada because of the higher dollar. But the greenback is still worth more than the loonie.

As far as the sidestick goes, i think it's a necessary step. The yoke setup just doesn't work anymore for airliners. It takes up more space, costs more to maintain and having a sidestick doesnt really affect how pilots fly a FBW aircraft anyways since there is never option to force the controls like has been necessary in mechanical/hydraulic controlled aircraft in some emergencies (AA96 over Windsor).

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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:55 am

I've read a couple of articles in the Albuquerque Tribune this last month. They identified the four finalists for the production facility as Albuquerque, Ontario, Quebec and Belfast (That's in Northern Ireland for everyone who is geographically challenged). Also said a decison should be made sometime next month.
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ZRH
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:14 am

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (reply 3):
As far as the sidestick goes, i think it's a necessary step


I think the yoke is a dying out species. It really does not matter at all if you fly a FBW aircraft, like the B 777, 787 and all Airbuses (from the A 320 on), with a yoke or a side-stick. BTW the most new vessels (tankers, container, ferries) are controlled by a (side)-stick and not anymore by a wheel.
 
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:22 am

Is this going to be Bombardier's first fly-by-wire a/c or is/are their aircraft always like that?
 
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RE: Bombardier C-Series With A Sidestick?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:49 am

What is the new plane going to look like

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