KAUST
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How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:37 am

Greetings,
my apologies if this question has been asked before, I did not find it in the search-function.

How much longer will American Airlines operate their Super 80 fleet? I love the planes and love the airline, hope they keep them going for a long time to come  Big thumbs up Though I understand times are getting tough for the fleet?

Thanks -
KAUST
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lvkewlkid
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:45 am

I love the airline, but not much the aircraft, there kind of tight, and no IFE, unless they get one of those awesome digEplayers on more flights.

Does anyone know why it was called the Super 80, arent there also 83s and 87s in there fleet?
 
OV735
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:49 am

How many of them is AA operating? 200? 300? I wouldn't expect them to be gone before some good seven, eight or maybe even ten years, especially since some of them are relatively new aircraft made for TWA in the late 1990's.
 
saxman66
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:50 am

Not for a while. AA was originally going to phase them out and replace them with the 737-800's. But since they are alittle strapped for cash, they will be keeping them awhile longer. If I had to guess, at least 10 years.

Chris
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aa757first
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:54 am

Seeing that there are more of them than AirTran, Frontier and jetBlue (guesstamating) have planes, not soon. Remember, the last one was built only three years ago.

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CORULEZ05
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:35 pm

Forget about seeing those puppies gone anytime soon. AA have way too many and they don't have any replacements....they will be around for awhile...I'm glad CO got rid of theirs I must say...just another reason why CO is #1
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DAL767400ER
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:36 pm

AA still has some 350+ MD-80s. So even assuming they would get 36 new 738s per year (or 3 per month), it would take them 10 years to replace them all. Plus, AA currently doesn't have plans to replace them, meaning you will see them at least 12 more years in AA's colors.
 
boeingfever777
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:12 pm

I did not find it in the search-function. ...right!  Yeah sure

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1780332/
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aa777flyer
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:28 pm

AA WILL BEGIN to phase out their Super 80's AFTER NW retires their last DC9...(LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!)......
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isitsafenow
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:38 pm

LYKE..It was called the super 80 because when the plane first was being tested and marketed, it was the DC9-80. After North Central and AA put their first ones in service, McDonnell Douglas started calling it the MD-80.
That may not be 100 percent correct but its pretty close.
safe
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FlagshipAZ
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:20 am

American's oldest MD-80 is 22 yrs old, while the youngest is 6 yrs old. If you count AA's MD-80s with those of TWA...you'll have 362 MD-82/83s. I expect AA to retain the majority of the fleet for quite awhile yet, probably up until 2013 before the oldest 50 start leaving the fleet. Regards.
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ContinentalFan
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:56 am

The AA MD-80 is the new NW DC-9.  Laugh out loud
 
sllevin
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:01 am

Given that AA has deferred 54 of 56 orders left for this decade, it's unlikely you'll seem them disappear anytime soon!

Steve
 
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:09 am

We never hear of anything in any company news about replacing the Super 80s at all. In the late '90s when AA announced its agreement with Boeing, it was assumed that the 738s were going to be its replacement. Of the 362 MD-80s on hand, 28 have been parked, and another 12 are going to be grounded this year, leaving 322 in active service. AA has hopes of returning the grounded Super 80s to the air if the financial status of the company improves, unlike the 14 767-200s parked in Roswell, NM. 8 of those 762s are going to be broken up.
 
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:48 am

The last MD-80 was built in 99 for TWA. There is nothing wrong with the MD-80 if you want IFE bring your own. I hope thye fly them till the damn wings fall off and trust me since it's a MD it will fly that long!
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alexchao
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:57 am

There is an interesting article about how the old DC-9s are paying off for NW:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050220/old_planes_4.html

If NW can use their DC-9s for that long and effectively, I wouldn't be surprised to see AA use their Super 80s for at least 30 years each.
 
Aviationhack
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:10 am

I personally enjoy flying on AA's MD-80's.

The ones that I've flown on recently still have MRTC, and are more comfortalble to fly on than most airlines international coach.

I'm still willing to pay an extra 50-80 dollars to fly in MRTC with American on the short haul, and even more on long haul flights, but I'm afraid I'm in the minority.

If people would just pay for a a comfortable flight rather than bitch about a miserable flight, the industry would leap forward, but I'm afraid that this forum would recieve considerably less traffic if that were to happen.  Smile
 
FriendlySkies
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:14 pm

Just as long as NW...when they fall out of the sky, they will be written off and never heard of again except in spotting rumors on a.net...
 
alb222
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:23 pm

Quoting Isitsafenow (reply 9):
LYKE..It was called the super 80 because when the plane first was being tested and marketed, it was the DC9-80. After North Central and AA put their first ones in service, McDonnell Douglas started calling it the MD-80.
That may not be 100 percent correct but its pretty close.
safe


Very close. When it was Douglas Aircraft, it was DC9-80. When McDonnell and Douglas merged, to show this was a MD craft, MD80 was born. That is why the advanced DC10 became the MD11 before the first flight.
Boeing came in and things changed again. The MD95 became the 717
 
Carpethead
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RE: How Long For AA Super 80's?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:33 pm

Some will be flying in year 2020 barring a major jump in engine efficiency or catastrophe.

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