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PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:13 am

I have mentioned in a few threads how many carriers have served the PDX-SEA market at one time or another in the last 30 years or so. (21 I can count so far) It was a great way to experience different airlines and aircraft types, often times being the tail end of a long flight, for a small amount of money. Sometimes as low as $10-12, I used to fly as a teenager back and forth in a day a few times, putting my flights together a day before and flying up to 4 carriers in a day, just to take off and land, (my favorite parts of flying). So what I'd like to know is other than what I listed here, can anyone add to my list of planes and airlines that have flown this route at 1 time or another in the past 30 years or so. Also the shortest scheduled US 747 route I can find.
I am not counting OAK-SFO, UA used to position planes after maintenance.

Western-732, 722, 720
PanAm- 707, 747
Braniff- 747, 722
American-M80, 722
Eastern-L-1011, 722, A-300
Delta-L-1011, 767, 757, 722
Hawaiian-L-1011
United-722, 732, DC10, DC8
United Express-EMB
Continental-M80, 722 (possibly a DC-10 or 720/707, tail end of HNL in 70's)
Northwest-A320, 722, DC10
Morris Air/Sierra Pacific-732
Alaska-732, 734, 722, M80
Wien Air Alaska-732, 722
Horizon-F-27, F-28, CRJ, Dash-8-200/400, SWM, Dornier 328
TWA-L-1011, 767, M80
Republic-722, DC-9's several series (10's, 30's, 50's)(after RW merger)
Hughes Airwest-F-27, 722, DC-9's several series (10's, 30's, 50's)
AirCal-M80, 732, 733
Frontier (the original)-732
Air Oregon(Boeing Field)-SWM
Far West Airlines-HIO to BFI (very short lived) don't know the aircraft type.

Not sure, I believe Cascade may have done it right near the end of their existence, but I'm still pretty skeptical. I know there have been a few
commuter routes to Boeing field. Anyway, this is in my opinion, was one of the most well served routes in America, and a great way to experience different carriers and aircraft, you may have never flown on otherwise. any thoughts?
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:32 am

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Also, AirCal had a couple of 737-100's in their fleet, but I don't know if they ever ran PDX-SEA though.


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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:23 am

I did forget about QQ, thanks! I am surprised and also amazed that WN has never tried this route, I believe they'd certainly bring the fares down, however as fares got so high, most people have learned that the 3 hour drive is as long as flying it. So I'd expect with no interline agreements, WN could have a hard time filling even 6 flights a day, and the other point is most O&D traffic, and
there is quite a bit, are loyal AS fliers, and this is a solid QX route, but so is Spokane, and WN has both GEG-SEA and PDX-GEG flights. Even UA express has cut back services, they were trying to compete to some degree, I see both pros and cons, it would be interesting to see what'd happen if WN did it.
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:51 am

US air was on the route for awhile in the late 80s early 90s (continuing on to PIT). Pan AM had 727s on the route in the final days an Northwest had 747s on the route. I believe Jet America was also on this route and HP as well, albeit for a short period of time.

I think one of the problems nowadays is that it is legal to drive 70 mph on I-5 (which means most people are going to do 75+) which means the time driving is not much slower, and in some cases may take about the same time. At one time, SEA was the 2nd largest market out of PDX but now it is way down the list.

I doubt we'll ever see WN on the route. The QX shuttle, combined with the few United express flights has this market covered.
 
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:26 am

Hasn't SY flown the PDX-SEA route as well in the past?
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:57 am

I forgot to mention NW 747's, and Chugach, you are correct just this last summer SY had a flight on a 738. I really do believe USAir did this route at one time or another, on one of their two failed attempts into Portland, (other than the PSA acquisition), and I'm not so clear on Jet America, but I'm almost positive HP never flew this route. I could be wrong. thats a total of 25 different airlines so far, how many scheduled non-stop routes have had 25 or more carriers on it at one time or another? And I never knew PDX saw the PA 722, As PDX was the tail end of HNL or FAI services. I also forgot to mention UA 727-100's also did this flight. But during the 70's and 80's UA served 5 cities in Oregon, all from PDX too, flights PDX-SLE-MFR, and PDX-EUG-MFR, PDX-PDT-BOI, 737-100 or 200's or 727-100's. I supposed some of these flights must have originated or terminated in Seattle at some time.
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:56 am

The shortest scheduled domestic 747 route I can think of was SAN-LAX back in the 80's. This flight continued to HNL and was operated on a dialy basis.

Also, I bet LAX-SFO comes close to PDX-SEA in terms of the number of airlines that have served it over the last 30 years.
 
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:26 pm

Jet America flew PDX-SEA whcih continued on to Minneapolis or Dallas (an I think the SEA-PDX flight continued to vegas). I thought HP's 1st timetable had a PDX-SEA-PHX routing but I could be wrong. They both started at PDX around the same time (1984ish)
 
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:26 pm

NW also flew a 757 between SEA and PDX as well very briefly in the late 1990s - this was a same flight number, different aircraft continuation of the DC-10 in from HNL.


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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:41 pm

Hey NWA Man, you are totally correct, I even have flown the 757 as the tail end of the HNL flight, 86 & 87 .. right? Anyway thanks for the reply! So far we are up to 26 confirmed airlines PDX-SEA. And counting still..
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:08 pm

I distinctly remember flying on a Northwest Orient 747 from ANC-SEA-PDX in 1972 when I was young. Also, I grew up hanging out at HIO, and I'm not 100 percent certain, but I believe that Far West Airlines used the Swearingen Metro on the HIO-BFI route. One more thing; did Harbour Air ever fly PDX-SEA? I know they flew PDX-AST and PDX-OTH.
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:13 pm

Alaska also operated the 73G on the route a short while back, plane left in the morning and went PDX-SEA-IAD. Return was BOS-SEA-PDX leaving Seattle around the same time as the last QX shuttle flight.
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:30 pm

Quoting RWA380 (reply 9):
Hey NWA Man, you are totally correct, I even have flown the 757 as the tail end of the HNL flight, 86 & 87 .. right? Anyway thanks for the reply!



Wow, if I had to guess, I'd say it was 924/925, but I'm not sure. We're talking at least three years ago, if not more. It could very well have been 86/87.

Anyway, this is an awesome, extensive list. Keep it comin'.


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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:46 pm

Doesn't fit your time span but I've used West Coast PDX-BFI F27 and DC9-10 as well as AirWest on both SEA and BFI DC9
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:12 am

I could be wrong, but I believe San Juan Airlines operated a flight between PDX-BFI.
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RE: PDX-SEA Over The Years, A Great Way To Experience

Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:28 am

I know for sure San Juan operated PDX-CLM and PDX-BLI, was not sure about BFI, but as I stated there have been lots of little carriers that have tried BFI at one time or another from PDX, I flew San Juan PDX-CLM-YYJ, and YVR-BLI-PDX.
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