virgincrew
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Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:50 am

News from Virgin Internal communications today:-

As of May 2005 all of the Virgin Classic Birds (including the three stored at Mojave Dessert) will be sold to Transaero - A Russian airline.

The last 747-200 flight with Virgin colours will be from MCO to MAN at the end of April and will be the VS076.

Then all five of the Virgin classics will be going to Russia. One is currently being repainted in the BA workshop at LGW.

It's good to know the classics will continue to fly and the three in storage in the dessert will be coming back into service !
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VSCaptain
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:40 am

Does anybody know if it will be G-VBEE or G-VSSS operating the last VS classic flight?
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carledwards
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:41 am

sounds good. does anyone have a list of the identities of al these aircraft to hand? (including their current status)
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jrowson
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:57 am

G-VSSS is still at MAN, so that should be the last one to operate the classic flights.
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:54 am

Hello

G-VBEE is currently at LGW and has had the name/logo painted out and been re-registered as P4-TSO...that's what I've heard/read anyway.
G-VSSS will continue to operate VS75/76 MAN-MCO-MAN until the end of April when a 744 will take over.
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bennett123
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:12 am

The most recent figures that I have for these aircraft are 77,000 to 85,000 Hours.

Consequently, I suspect that they will not be operated for more than 8-10 years.

I think that cargo conversion is most likely.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:46 am

G-VBEE is at LGW being painted now!

G-VSSS for the last one!

Chris
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:32 am

My understanding is that these will be used for charter destinations such as Sharm El Sheik, Hurghada, Antalya, etc. Transaero makes no mention of these planes on their usually updated website, but has annouced "definite" leases from FLC of new Tu-214s. Is this the price they had to pay to import duty-free 747s? I still won't believe it entirely until I see the planes pics at DME. Anyone know if they will carry a RA registration of get registered in Bermuda or Vanatau?
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:34 am

I believe this is a sad day for Manchester and Virgin. They may well be glad to get rid of them but i dont think that is the case.

Were BEE and SSS not Air Atlanta aircraft for a short while?
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:16 am

A321fly,

They still are Air Atlanta aircraft. They have a small Air Atlanta logo on the side of the fuselage if you look closely.

Does anyone know if they are being transferred out of the Air Atlanta fleet or if they will be on lease to Transaero?

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A321fly
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:19 am

ah i thought so.

Thanks for that.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:22 am

Edit: Tried to post a pic but wouldn't work. Check out No.763265.

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[Edited 2005-02-23 23:23:52]
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:36 am

Quoting Afay1 (reply 7):
Anyone know if they will carry a RA registration of get registered in Bermuda or Vanatau?


Per reply #4, it sounds like they are being registered in Aruba (P4-).
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access-air
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:22 pm

Exactly what date in April will the last VS 742 fly from Orlando ??? Id love to be on it!!! As i have never flown on the 200 series 747...Can anyone tell me??

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kl911
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:25 pm

Is this the first Russian airline to operate a 747?


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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:45 pm

Quoting Afay1 (reply 7):
My understanding is that these will be used for charter destinations such as Sharm El Sheik, Hurghada, Antalya, etc


Would be great to see SSH and HRG getting more 747s. Currently Air Atlanta is the only regular 747 (-200 and -300) operator to HRG and SSH from LGW, though KU and SV 747s are common too.

When I was in Sharm El Sheikh a week ago there were 14 flights to Moscow on one day so I'm sure Transaero will be able to fill the jumbos on their Red Sea services.

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united905
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:07 am

Just looked on the virgin site for a price to take a final trip on one and to go in mid of april was 577gbp.couldnt find anthing on opodo.any ideas
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:30 am

Does anyone know if there are any of those modifed airliner livery pics that show what the 742s will look like in Transaero colours?
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:26 am

Does anyone know when they will start leaving Mojave? I would love to see them leave.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:41 am

Aw! I think those lovely birds were the last 747 non-SUD I saw in Toronto and only briefly before the WTC attack resulted in Virgin cutting service to YYZ. When will I see another Classic???
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:47 am

What did SRB get for 5 747-200s off Transero?
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:58 am

Quoting Spike (reply 20):
What did SRB get for 5 747-200s off Transero?


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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:21 am

Quoting KL911 (reply 14):
Is this the first Russian airline to operate a 747?


No, I believe Volga Dnepr got some cargo versions less than a year ago to expand its "non-oversize" cargo ops.

But it is the first passenger 747 operator in Russia.

Another question: where could they fly them to? I know they operate to places like the Maldives and the Dominican Republic on their 767s, but I think the 747s will be doing mostly Far East as well as perhaps the USA... and with that high capacity and probably lower seat mile costs than Aeroflot maybe they could do some undercutting. I would also not be surprised to see them running on some of the heaviest Russian domestic routes.

Their site is www.transaero.ru/english for more info. Looks pretty decent.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:20 am

Yeah their website is pretty good. Does anyone know what IFE is installed on these planes and whether it will stay? Will this be the first major Russian carrier to have PTVs? Do the SU 777 have PTVs? I know Vyborg does on the IL-114s, but anyway, this is more major....
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:53 am

Any news on this Transaero deal? When will the first be flown to Russia?
 
bennett123
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:26 am

Since reply 5, I have had more time to think about things.

Given the major increase in capacity, I think that Transaero will use these planes on new routes, either Sharm El Sheikh or similar leisure destinations or business flights to Shanghai, Beijing and other destinations in the far east.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic's Classic's Go To Russia

Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:19 am

> Will this be the first major Russian carrier to have PTVs? Do the SU 777 have PTVs?

No, AFL's 777s do not have PTVs and in fact all Russian airlines are notorious for the lack of (or poor quality) inflight entertainment. Let's hope Transaero will start a new trend.

Also hope they will reinstate routes to US (used to fly MOW-LAX) and now since SU is gone from SFO....
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