mauriceb
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KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:06 am

hey guys,

since my mum is a KLM employee we receive ''de wolken ridder'' , the montly KLM magazine.

this time they have a view on the A330, wich will arive in August this year, and they visited toulouse. they had some interesting points

-they mentioned that the configuration will be 3-3 in business, and 2-4-2 in economy

- 2nd A330 order, they mentioned that the plan is to fly well over the 10 A330's for medium haul, and A350 isn't likely to arive instead of A330 since they see it more like and Long haul plane instead of a medium haul plane like the A330

-crew not to positif about it, as they are affraid that they will loose crew rest area and for most of them (since a lot are young) never flew anything else than boeing or McDouglas.

-first trained pilots very happy with the A330...

- 767 pilots complain about the high payments the A330 pilots will get
 
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:09 am

3x3 in business? what an odd config for a widebody.
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting MauriceB (reply 0):
3-3 in business


I find this really hard to believe. How do you expect the F/As to reach the passangers in the prisoner seats? It's not the same as 3 economy seats next to the window, as these will be much wider (and the F/As need to serve business class passangers in a bit more active way; not just passing a tray). I can't imagine why anyone will choose the 3-3 config over 2-2-2. You might get slightly wider seats (since you'll only need one aisle instead of two), but the 2-2-2 is pretty confortable anyway (and the dutch are not as large as Americans!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy). And I can't imagine any business class passangers paying lots of money to get stuck in such a prisoner seat, which is infinitely worse than the middle seat of a 2-3-2 config.

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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:42 am

World Business Class will be 36 sleeper seats 2-2-2 as might be expected. Full cabin Matsushita AVOD like 772 with sms / e-mail functionality. Engines CF6-80E1.
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:47 am

I have to give some props to KLM and their paint scheme for these aircraft and the rest of the fleet:

The 777 and soon to be A330 in KLM colors are IMO the most beautiful in the skies today  Smile

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Udo
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting Airportugal310 (reply 4):
The 777 and soon to be A330 in KLM colors are IMO the most beautiful in the skies today


True, but don't forget the 11s!  Big thumbs up


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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:36 am

The A330 should look great in KLM's new colors, but then, the A330 looks good in any paint job.  Love

I didn't like KLM's new scheme at first, but it has grown on me and now I like it a lot.

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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:20 am

MD80Nut I have to agree, the new scheme took some time to get used to but once you've seen it in real life it is one of the nicest ones out there. Though I think the A330 would still have looked sharp in the old colours:

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mauriceb
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:49 am

Guy's you can still say Bizz will be 2-2-2 but KLM confirmed that it wil be 3-3 .........
 
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:32 am

Where did you get this info MauriceB??? I read the article in "wolkenridder" and nowhere did they mention a 3-3 conf in C-class. KLM cabin crew magazine Cabin Ready jan 2005 has the layout and says the config will be 30 c-class & 221 economy. The seats will be 2-2-2 in bizz and 2-4-2 in economy. All seats will have the new on demand video system.

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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:01 am

That's the info I also got. C-class 2-2-2 and M-class 2-4-2. I never heard about the 3-3 configuration and I also read the Wolkenridder.

Cheers!

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mauriceb
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RE: KL A330, Info About Config And More

Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:01 pm

maybe i read it wrong , but they sure talked about it, maybe they said it will not be the 3-3 but 2-2-2 so you never have the midle seat. but i will read it again when im from school today

cheers!

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