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BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:56 am

Hey all. I am a new member to and i would just like to say that i think it is the best $55 i have ever spent.The site is an excellant resource.
Anyway to get back to the question.I am resident in Dublin Ireland and have joined both the executive club and diamond club. I have around five thousand miles on each( i know thats not much) as i have just signed up three weeks ago.I am a fairly regular flyer to London (three to four times a month) and normally fly Aer Lingus.However their service and lounges standards have dramatically fallen in the last year so i have pledged my alliegance to the British carriers.I only aim for silver status at the moment.Which program do you think is better suited to my requirements?

Thanks in advance.
(p.s sorry if this has been posted before)
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:15 am

You might want to consider joining a US-based program as well, depending upon how you travel, and what you want out of a program. European programs are often less rewarding. Typically international long haul upgrades are the main advantage to a program -- normally that only be done on the carrier's own metal.

From DUB-LON, you've got lots of choices,

You could join AA's program and gain miles on both EI (when you must) as well as BA.

You could join KL's program and earn miles on AF's DUB-LCY service -- very nice if you are going into the City.

CO also offers some additional benefits to it's European members (such as free lounge membership), and again, you'd have AF for DUB-LCY.

For Star, don't forget about carriers like LH and UA.

Again, it depends on your flying patterns and what you want.

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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:44 am

I don't fly relatively much, maybe 2 long haul trips a year and 2-4 short haul (read: Europe) trips a year, plus LCC trips.

In terms of distance, I've flown about the same on BA (including partners like QF) and on CO. Out of CO I have had two transatlantic upgrades and due a third (short by about 100 miles which I'll probably pay for - about £20). After my South America trip I'll be 2/3 of the way to the next upgrade.

Out of BA I've had ONE "free" (plus £60 taxes) Europe 1 return (read: France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium). For Europe 1 it's usually cheaper to go easyJet or similar.

Guess which one I prefer?!?!?

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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:39 am

Well it's quite dependent on where in London you normally fly to, and what sort of fare you normally fly on. BA (and EI too, while they're still in oneworld) is good as long as you're flying on full fare tickets. In fact, it's the only way you can progress up the tiers within the BA program as you don't get any tier points on discount tickets.

If you fly on a mixture of fares, sometimes full fare, sometimes cheaper I'd definitely recommend BD. This will also give you access to some of the other big European *A carriers like LH and SK, as well as transatlantic flights on UA / US. I'm from Dublin originally, and flew DUB-LHR at least weekly for about a year - very quickly made gold with BD, and could then use those miles on any of the other * carriers.

Is it mainly LHR you fly to?
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:07 pm

Sorry... I don't mean to be rude.. but why do you have to pay to access this site? It's free... for information! Having those little emblems on your profile does not mean a thing to anyone here. Well, not to me anyway.

Remember that when flying on many of the discounted fares on BA, you get something like 25% (or none) credit only no matter which airline programme you put the miles on. That goes for AA's AAdvantage as well. If you join AAdvantage , you get NO miles if you are to fly on BA transatlantically to the US. Of which you must fly on AA.

BD's fares allow full 100% credit on most FF programmes. And you'd have a choice of programmes to choose from from all Star Alliance partners.

Your travel patterns will determine what your eventual allegence will be. If you're just flying between DUB and LHR, then stay with EI's programme. You may of course take BA, and (again) depending on the fare paid, you are allowed to credit your flight into EI's account and access lounge use.

Silver status...? That's BD's programme I believe? Silver will not get you lounge access on economy class fares. You need at least Gold.

For Aer Lingus' programme, you need to attain and maintain GOLD Circle Prestige in order to use any Oneworld Airlines' lounges when flying in economy.
When flying on Business or First Class, you get automatic access to lounges anyway (except when travelling within the USA).
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:46 pm

Thanks guys is Lhr that i mainly fly to so the response im getting is definately BD. I'm going to enroll now!
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:29 am

Actually BD Silver will give access to BD lounges when you fly with them and its pretty easy to maintain this if you do a few long hauls.
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:13 am

You could join AA's program and gain miles on both EI (when you must) as well as BA.

Unfortunately AA and BA don't codeshare across the pond due to competitive regulations (sigh).
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RE: BA Or BD FF Program?

Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:38 am

Air Canada Aeroplan has even lower thresholds for *A Silver and *A Gold, although you'd need BD Silver to get lounge access.

As you are a student it is possible you may not pay for full fare so BA Exec Club is quite useless to you. As GeoffM says a lot of discount tickets get you nowhere, although if you are willing to stump up for Club Europe (circa £200 to Dublin) you'll move up the ranks fast. I've been in the EC just over 2years and have done very well out of it, earned Silver status and almost 300k miles.
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