PolAir
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LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:41 pm

Hi guys. Need some help with school project. I am trying to find out about costs for a start up LCC in Europe. Is anybody familiar with:

- costs of leasing airplanes (737/320)
- costs of registering airplanes
- plane insurance (same types)
- cost of jet fuel in Europe
- wages for LCC pilots/cabin crew
- landing/TO fees at different European airports
- other fees that I am not aware off (prolly bunch)

Thanks a bunch...
 
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:27 pm

I am sorry. I wish I can help. Thank you for posting. Good Luck! Maybe you will start up LCC airline in Europe in the near future!? It is good that you are into airline industry!
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alb222
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:03 pm

As far as pilot pay:


http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/
 
LRGT
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:09 pm

Quoting Polair (reply 0):
- costs of leasing airplanes (737/320)


New: $250k/mo
Old 737-200: $25k/mo


Quoting Polair (reply 0):
- plane insurance (same types)


For some reason it is much cheaper than the US...but I am not sure the exact figure. It can be as higher than crew costs in the states.
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:10 pm

Quoting Lrgt (reply 3):
New: $250k/mo
Old 737-200: $25k/mo


is that US dollars or Euro's
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flybeq400
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:44 pm

A good article to start is on BBC magazine at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3695111.stm
 
1MillionFlyer
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:08 pm

I used to Lease planes from Boeing Finance. I remember that a M80 was 184,000 Dollars a month, I would bet that a 737-700 would be able to be had for a similiar price since the lease market is so weak right now.

I would bet $150,000 to $210,000 month for a A319/320.

I would bet "old" planes like 737-300/400 could be had much much more cheaply, hopefully someone else will post.

good luck!
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PolAir
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:12 am

Thank you guys so far.
So how much is gas in Europe?
 
LRGT
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RE: LCC's Operating Costs Question

Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:44 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (reply 6):
M80 was 184,000 Dollars a month


Now they (MD-80) are about $35k (US Dollars). Great lease price for an aircraft with a great fuel burn.

If you started up leasing (most purchase with sweet deals from Airbus or Boeing), this would be the type of a/c to go with since it has these low lease rates and only burns 900 gal/hr and carries 174 pax. A320 carries the same and still burns 820 gal/hr. No matter how expensive oil gets, the extra $200k/mo will never be worth it!
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