rootsair
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Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:45 pm

Hello folks,

Is there any daytime transatlantic flights from the americas to Europe? I suppose it could be possible for example, that a New York-London flight takes place in this way. It would leave lets say at 8am and arrive the same day more or less at 8 pm.

It would be appreciated if you could inform me on that one, since i know most if not all transatlantic flights are overnight

antoehr question. Whilst there are some night flights between Europe and South America are there night flights from europe to the U.S ?

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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:53 pm

Yes,

BA238 BOS LHR 0815 1940
AA156 BOS LHR 0900 2020
AA090 ORD LHR 0910 2235
BA186 EWR LHR 0810 1955
VS018 EWR LHR 0820 2000
AA142 JFK LHR 0830 2015
BA176 JFK LHR 0900 2040
BA225 IAD LHR 0850 2055
UA922 IAD LHR 0930 2155
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:53 pm

AA and BA both have morning flights from JFK to LHR.
AA and BA also both have morning flights from BOS to LHR.
AA has a morning flight from ORD to LHR.
UA and BA both have morning flights from IAD to LHR.

There might even be more. These were taken from just from a cursory look at travelocity.com.

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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:02 pm

I am not aware of any nightime Europe-US flights.

The daytime US-Europe flights are considered by some to be a well-kept secret that can give excellent benefits on jet lag if you have the time to spare. Obviously it 'costs' you a working day, but makes jet lag virtually non-existent: you get up, go to the airport, fly to Europe and by the time you have got your bags, gone home, opened the post etc, it is roughly time to go to bed in local time and as you have had a long, tiring day flying, you are tired at exactly the right time. Next day you wake up with hardly any jet lag.
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:29 pm

There are no night flights between Europe and the US simply because the time difference is too much and the journey times are not long enough to make the departure and arrival times appealing. This also makes crew stop overs unpopular.

Take LON-MIA for example, a 9 hour flight, time difference 5 hours.
If you leave LON at 11.55pm you would arrive MIA at 3.55 am and then leave MIA at 7.00 am arriving LON at 8.20pm.
 
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:26 pm

Although there are some late night westbound flights, 6pm, 7pm departures. Virgin have the last of the day from London, leaves about 7pm and arrives at JFK about 10, also KLM have a very late arrival into JFK from AMS, I think theirs is the last westbound arrival into JFK each night.
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:36 pm

Add AC's YYZ-LHR to the daytime flights as well: 09h00-21h00.


Quoting Cedarjet (reply 5):
Virgin have the last of the day from London, leaves about 7pm and arrives at JFK about 10


Air Canada do a LHR-YYZ that departs after 21h00 and arrives around midnight.
 
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:11 am

night flights operated from TLV to NYC... ok but Israel is not Europe...
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:46 am

TWA briefly operated a daytime JFK-CDG flight, but apparently it proved unpopular. I guess the extra hour of time difference plus the additional flying time result in a very early departure and/or a very late arrival. Also, there are not really any connecting opportunities on either end, so these flights rely almost entirely on O&D traffic. In any event, no one has tried that since, although I wonder if one of the Skyteam airlines might have better luck now with all the codeshares.
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:47 am

Quoting Cedarjet (reply 5):


Quoting Cedarjet (reply 5):
Although there are some late night westbound flights, 6pm, 7pm departures. Virgin have the last of the day from London, leaves about 7pm and arrives at JFK about 10


BA has a departure that leaves LHR around 20.15 for a late evening arrival in JFK.
 
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:37 am

VS has a morning service 5 days a week from IAD to LHR in the summer. It leaves at 7am I think.
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iadguy73
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:47 pm

Actually, VS 055/056 only operates in SEP and OCT.

VS 055 LHR-IAD 2010 2320 357
VS 056 IAD-LHR 0725 1930 146

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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:54 pm

The morning flights are also timed to connect with red-eyes from the west coast. While you still lose a day, you are pretty immune from jet lag flying like that.
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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:17 pm

I'd die if I took a red-eye from the West Coast followed by a nonstop to Europe.

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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:29 pm

I know from listening to the scanner that there is usually a VS flight (17 IIRC) that comes into EWR between 11pm and midnight. Not sure when it leaves the UK, but it must be an entirely nighttime flight.

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RE: Any Daytime West- East Transatlantic Flight?

Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:33 am

AA also has an evening departure from LHR to JFK, flight 141, which leaves at 8:00 pm.

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