mozart
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Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:12 am

OK, copyright for this idea goes to Avianca, who startet a similar thread on MUC: http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1980830/

But it got me thinking that there is one airport in Europe which has really slipped in significance, which is ZRH, and one evidence of this is the loss of longhaul flights. Here are the ones I can think of:

DL to CVG, JFK
AA to anything else than DFW (?)
TW to JFK
PA to JFK, continuing to STR
RG to GRU, SSA
VP to GRU and some other places I believe
AR to EZE
KQ to NBO (?)
ME to BEY
IR to THR (?)
KE to SEL, one of KE's first European destinations
JL to NRT
CX to HKG
GA to CGK (?)

plus all the destinations LX has axed from the old SR network. Maybe someone can fill the gap here.

Which ones have I forgotten?

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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:20 am

Qantas used to fly to Zurich or Geneva, one of the two, can't remember which. And it's worth noting that TWA used 747s, very nice.
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:25 am

AV to BOG years ago... they operated into ZRH in the 70s with B707
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:37 am

Viasa served CCS from ZRH
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:09 am

There were a lot of SR destinations. I can't remember all but some as:

Washington, Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Francisco, Toronto, Osaka, Shanghai, Beijing, Buenos Aires, Caracas, Manila, Karachi, Kingshasa, Dakar, Cape Town, Oguadougou and many others in Africa.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:13 am

Quoting Mozart (reply 0):
AA to anything else than DFW (?


Quoting Mozart (reply 0):
JL to NRT


AA still flies to DFW and JFK out of ZRH; and as I know JL is still here and flies to NRT.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:15 am

KE still operates to Zurich on A330 if i am not mistaken
JL operates to NRT in the summer
AR again operates via MAD to EZE
IR is planning to return to ZRH (2x weekly to THR)
TW, VP, PA are dead anyway....
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:21 am

SQ ? Or maybe they still fly there now. But it used to be AMS - Zurich - SIN.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:24 am

SQ still flies here daily B744 service.
(2 of which continue to MAN)
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RE: What Airlines Have You Flown? Post Em' Here!

Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:13 am

Quoting Avianca (reply 3):
Viasa served CCS from ZRH


Don't remember me, it makes me cry. But it's true from the mid 80s until some months before the sad end there were 2weekly flights ZRH-CCS, mainly combined with another city such as OPO with that nice DC10:


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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:16 am

Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (reply 5):
AA still flies to DFW and JFK out of ZRH;


Yes, but they used to fly ORD-ZRH as well. They were also planning MIA-ZRH, but it never started.
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:26 am

Quoting MAH4546 (reply 10):
Yes, but they used to fly ORD-ZRH as well. They were also planning MIA-ZRH, but it never started.


I think there is not enough traffic for two flights a day between ZRH and MIA or ORD. At the moment Swiss flies between those cities and AA codeshares. As they also do vice-versa on there respective JFK flights.

[Edited 2005-02-28 23:31:47]
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:47 am

Quoting ZRH (reply 4):
Washington, Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Francisco, Toronto, Osaka, Shanghai, Beijing, Buenos Aires, Caracas, Manila, Karachi, Kingshasa, Dakar, Cape Town, Oguadougou and many others in Africa.


Some other destinations which used to be served by SR:

Santiago de Chile
Rio De Janeiro
Kuwait
Abu Dhabi
Delhi
Brazzaville
Osaka
Ho Chi Minh City
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:32 am

... as well as Taipei, by Swissair Asia, remember, with the funny tail. What does the sign actually mean? Switzerland?


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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:34 am

Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (reply 11):
I think there is not enough traffic for two flights a day between ZRH and MIA or ORD.


Clearly. That's why AA ended ORD-ZRH and why MIA-ZRH never got off the ground.
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:19 am

I dont recall SR flying to Ouagadougou, but in 1987 they flew to destinations like Bahrain, Khartoum, Monrovia, Dakar, Kuwait, Caracas and of course Anchorage. Santiago de Chile was added later on.

Air Madagascar flew Antananarivo-Nairboi-Zurich-Paris.
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:55 am

I flew SR on ZRH-IAD via BOS back in the early 90s.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:39 pm

Swissair obviously flew to lots of exotic destinations over the years, but in the last 10 years, these are the destinations given up by either Swissair or Swiss:

Philadelphia
Washington
Atlanta
San Francisco
Cincinnati (DL code share)

Rio de Janeiro
Buenos Aires
Santioago De Chile

Cape Town
Harare
Kinshasa
Libreville
Abidjan
Lagos
Accra
Dakar
Banjul
Bamako

Abu Dhabi
Tehran
Karachi
Delhi

Jakarta
Ho Chi Minh City
Taipei
Manila
Seoul
Beijing
Shanghai
Osaka

Earlier in time, Swissair, like so many other of the large European airlines, flew to many more destinations.

Other airlines that used to fly to Zurich in the past 10 years or so and don't visit Kloten any longer or have closed some of their routes include:

Air Madagascar (Antananarivo)
Air Seychelles (Mahe, soon to discontinue)
Cabo Verde Airlines (Ilha do Sal)

Air Canada (Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary)
Delta (Cincinnati)
American (Chicago)

VASP (Sao Paulo)
VARIG (Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro)
TAM (Sao Paulo)
Viasa (Caracas)

Garuda Indonesia (Jakarta, Denpasar)
Cathay Pacific (Hongkong)
Air China (Beijing)
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:31 am

The following cities lost SR/LX services which haven't been mentioned yet :

DLA
YAO
KUF
DAM & AMM (through LCA)

OA Stopped serving ZRH as well as HellasJet. Therefore, LX enjoys a monopoly on ATH-ZRH route
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:01 pm

Quoting ODAFZ (reply 18):
The following cities lost SR/LX services which haven't been mentioned yet :

DLA
YAO
KUF
DAM & AMM (through LCA)


As far as I know, Swiss is still operating to both Doula and Yaounde in Cameroon. Yaounde is served once weekly, via Malabo. Previously Yaounde was served nonstop and the flight continued to Libreville in Gabon. Douala is served twice weekly, also via Malabo. Douala was previously linked to Kinshasa. Swissair has not served Dammam or Dhahran in the recent past. Both KUF and AMM are not longhaul destinations.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:10 pm

Missing in the list:
China Airlines (to TPE)
Royal Brunei (BWN-KUL-AUH-ZRH vv.)
Gulf Air (AUH or BAH)
PIA Pakistan Intl Airlines (KHI-ZRH on 310 and later KHI-ZRH-JFK vv. on 742)
Air India
Nigeria Airways (from LOS)
Ghana Airways (not sure about them)
Air Afrique (don't know if they flew with own act but they had codeshare on SR)

Mozart,
yes, the meaning in "Switzerland" in Chinese

Cedarjet
I think QF operated to both. I remember having seen some QF L1049 pics at ZRH
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FDH
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:29 pm

You can add AC to the list. They used to fly YYZ-ZRH.

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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:49 pm

Oh I miss the good old Swissair days and when Kloten still had all kinds of traffic. When I was small, I remember seeing VASP coming on their MD-11 and SA with ther 747. I will never forget those Swissair 747s, and the funny Swissair Asia tail. I also remember VIA with the Tupolev TU-154. Swissairs future was to get the A346 and to paint them with a blue belly...how sad. brokenheart 


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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:56 am

Quoting Mozart (Reply 13):

The sign means 'Swiss' in Chinese.

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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:59 am

I might be mistaken but I thought I did Muscat on SR some years ago....
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:16 am

QF never operated into ZRH! AV operated B707 first, then B747. UL is gone soon while CA is considering ZRH again.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:20 am

Air China? That will be intersting. Mostlkely they will come wiht 763s.


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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:17 am

Oh those where the days...

Sad to see how ZRH and SR / LX are just a shadow of what they used to be...
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:29 am

Even more of a shadow at Geneva. SR had loads of longhauls from GVA, many to Frensh West Africa now it has, well, very few indeed!

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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:57 am

Didn't ATA used to fly to ZRH? And UA used to have the ORD-ZRH flight, but than it discontinued in 98 i think, but now its back in service.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:05 pm

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 20):
Air Afrique (don't know if they flew with own act but they had codeshare on SR)

Air Afrique never operated its own aircraft into ZRH. They codeshared on Swissair's thrice weekly Zurich-Abidjan route. The route was given up in a first round of cost cutting after the demise of Swissair.
 
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:21 am

FDH
AC does still operate into ZRH on a seasonal (summer) service to Toronto ...
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RE: Longhaul Flights From ZRH In The Past...

Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:22 am

Quoting IslipWN (Reply 29):
And UA used to have the ORD-ZRH flight, but than it discontinued in 98 i think, but now its back in service.

IAD-ZRH, not ORD-ZRH.
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