StarGoldLHR
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LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:15 am

Why do different airlines charge different airport taxes etc, when their supposed to be beyond the airlines control ???

Example...


www.jet2.com

Apr 3rd, LGW - MAN 1 Way.

Fare Quoted £29
Taxes £14
Total Fare £43



www.ba.com

Apr 3rd, LGW - MAN 1 Way
Fare Quoted £37.00
Taxes £36.10
Total Fare £73.10

Surely Taxes are taxes and Airport fees are airport fees and beyond the airlines control...

so why is BA's tax £36 and Jet2's is only £14 ??

Same day, same ticket type, two different airlines.

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JGPH1A
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:19 am

BA's so-called "taxes" includes their EUR9.00 per segment fuel surcharge, which they are trying to disguise by calling it a tax. It isn't a tax, however. That would explain the difference I think.
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cornish
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:20 am

BA includes their fuel surcharge in the tax section I believe....
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:24 am

VAT is 17.5% of the amount, surley this comes into amount hence the higher fares have higher taxes.

I find taxes on air travel getting annoying now, especially since they plan on introducing new taxes.

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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:18 am

When a fare is quoted on ba.com it does clearly state "taxes, fees, charges and surcharges" and "The price of your ticket includes a security, insurance and fuel surcharge per flight levied by the carrier".

Anyway, the BA quote in the original post shows taxes for a return flight. Oneway for LGW-MAN on BA is approx £16.20 tax.
 
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:27 am

I just took a look at Jet2's website. I got this:

Outbound flight per adult/child
Fare £ 9.00
Taxes & Airport charges £ 14.00
Total £ 23.00

Return flight per adult/child
Fare £ 9.00
Taxes & Airport charges £ 14.00
Total £ 23.00

Total per adult/child £ 46.00
Total for 1 passenger £ 46.00

It is £14 each way. On BA's site I got this:

Price breakdown Fare per person plus taxes, fees, charges and surcharges* per person Total
1 Adult £ 28.00 £ 36.40 £ 64.40
The price of your ticket includes a security, insurance and fuel surcharge per flight levied by the carrier. For details please click here.
Total price £ 64.40

Basically the taxes nearly the same, and the different is probably what JGPH1A mentioned, the fuel surcharge.

But, I have seen fares with U2 from LGW-AMS, where the tax is £10, whilst with BA on the same route, dates, and times, have tax which is 4 times this amount!

[Edited 2005-03-04 00:35:29]
 
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:14 am

This is something that does me about airlines who quote prices excluding taxes. Don't get me wrong, you can get some fantastic offers with low-cost airlines, and even major carriers, such as BA, but the hidden costs vary greatly.

Not many airlines give a clear breakdown of what these extra costs are, only to say "taxes and charges" etc. These can vary wildly from one airline to another and from airport to airport.

One exception I have noticed however is EUJet. Go to www.eujet.com and they give you a breakdown of what the extras actually are.

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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:02 pm

I do think it's scandalous that BA can hide their fuel surcharge as a tax, rather than simply adding EUR9.00 to the leg fare each way. Far more honest.
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:12 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (reply 7):
I do think it's scandalous that BA can hide their fuel surcharge as a tax, rather than simply adding EUR9.00 to the leg fare each way. Far more honest.


Unfortunately, practically no airline out there practices the really honest option: raising the base fare.

Most European airlines add a YQ-tax to the tax-box of the ticket, thereby increasing the taxes that are to be paid on the base fare...

Most US airlines use Q-Surcharges, which allow them to give a low base fare, which is, at the time of pricing/ticketing, then suddenly increased by those Q-Surcharges, while the taxes remain low.

Neither option shows up when you just look at fares - both are inherently dishonest - and one of these two options is in use by practically every single airline on this planet.
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:23 pm

interesrting about the fuel surcharge. does this apply only to BA operated flights? Just asking because ive check the ED!-SYY flights, and the price is still the same as it was 2 years ago (around the £90 mark)
 
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RE: LGW - MAN Why Are Taxes Different Bet Airlines

Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:32 pm

Quoting FlyingColours (reply 3):
VAT is 17.5% of the amount, surley this comes into amount hence the higher fares have higher taxes.


There is no VAT charged on airline tickets.

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