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LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:18 am

LAN just posted 2004 results $163M profit and in the report they talk about new aircraft, but they don't talk about the pending A340 orders with Airbus that should be deliver this year.

"During the fourth quarter of 2004, LAN incorporated one leased Boeing 767-300 and two new leased Airbus A319 aircraft. In 2005, the Company expects to incorporate three leased Boeing 767-300 passenger aircraft, two new Boeing 767-300 freighters and two new Airbus A319s"

Any one knows if they cancel the orders or what ?

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:27 am

According to LAN last year, the first A340 is due for delivery in November 2006, and the second in November 2008
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:32 am

Quoting Prm1fan (reply 1):


LAN bought 7 A340, 4 are already in the fleet and the other two should be delivered in Jun 2005 and March 2006.
What surprise me, is the fact that they are not mentioned in the report.
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:56 am

There was talk about them pulling an SQ-espue swap for 777's. Sounds unlikely to me though.
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:59 am

Quoting RJ111 (reply 3):
There was talk about them pulling an SQ-espue swap for 777's. Sounds unlikely to me though.

I wouldn't be surprised if the change their A340 for 777s. They have always like Boeing and most of their medium to long range is done with 767-300s.
WOW just love the idea of flying the 777 to AKL and SYD form SCL.
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:56 am

Quoting Flyfirst (reply 0):
the Company expects to incorporate three leased Boeing 767-300 passenger aircraft, two new Boeing 767-300 freighters and two new Airbus A319s


Hello, I saw an article earlier this year and it was similar in nature to the report you post. It did however allude to LAN as being the "UFO" Customer for the 3 763 and 1 763F that were ordered late last year (12th Nov). They had already purchased 2 763F as UFO (6th May) that has been changed to 3, despite one being ordered on the 12th Nov '04. So, my question, could it be that LAN was the UFO order for the 4 763s late last year and these are the aircraft they mention?

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:28 am

A 777 all the way across the most isolated part of the pacific? I think not. On the deep south routes (South America to Australasia and Australiasia to Southern Africa) the flights can be up to 5 hours from the nearest diversion point.

Way to go LAN! Good to see a quality airline growing. It's definitely got the most sophisticated and up market product in all of north and south America.
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:08 pm

LAN used to fly 763s to AKL and SYD so they should be able to fly the 777 there as well. I think LA wanted to trade their 343s to Boeing but Boeing wasn't interested. It seems that LA is very dissappointed with the 343s and therefore the delays of delivery of the fifth and sixth 343s.

I think LA will be one of the next customers for the 787 that will replace the older 763s and possibly 343s as well.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:24 pm

Quoting The777Man (reply 7):
I think LA will be one of the next customers for the 787 that will replace the older 763s and possibly 343s as well


Hi The777Man

Boeing's Mr Baseler was asked whether LAN were a potential 787 customer yesterday and here is his response...

He declined to comment to a question if Boeing is in talks with LAN Airlines SA. But then went on to say "As far as timing is concerned, I don't know but we would expect that some of the Latin American carriers would obviously see a need for this kind of airplane because it's perfect in size for them"

Read into it what you will but he appears to have said no, whilst not exactly closing the door.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:43 pm

Quoting The777Man (reply 7):
LAN used to fly 763s to AKL and SYD


Um no they didn't. They fly them to Easter Island and PPT but they never flew to AKL and SYD. I have heard the 777 thing about them but weather they trade the A343's for 772's remains to be seen. To me the A343 suits LAN quite well, weather they are happy with them I am not sure.
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:10 am

Wouldn't the A350 be interesting for LAN as replacement for both their A340-300 and 767-300ER fleet? The A350 will offer LAN almost the same advantages as the 787 would give them. The range between these two aircraft will be almost the same, the technologies would also be close to each other. The economics of both aircraft are things we just don't know yet.

In any case it would seem more logical for LAN to stay either with Airbus or Boeing. Boeing becomes a much bigger threat once Boeing launches the proposed 737 replacement aircraft, which will be based on technologies used on the 787. Boeing will become a real threat to Airbus once they also offer a complete range of aircraft types with full commonality, like Airbus has now with their aircraft family range.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:39 am

ZK-NBT; you are probably correct but what aircraft did LA fly to AKL prior to the 343 ?

PANAM_DC10: Thanks for the info! I'm not sure what to make of that comment. Usually when they decline to comment, that means that they actually ARE negotiating.....but the second part was a bit more vague.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:08 am

Quoting Flyfirst (reply 2):
LAN bought 7 A340, 4 are already in the fleet and the other two should be delivered in Jun 2005 and March 2006.


Remember that one of those seven was cjanged for two 320s after the demand contraction in 9-11, so there were only 6 left

Quoting Prm1fan (reply 1):
According to LAN last year, the first A340 is due for delivery in November 2006, and the second in November 2008


Actually I heard this year was supposed to receive one of them. Otherwise, how do you increase flights to Australia with 4 340s without affecting MAD, LAX and EZE that also receive daily 340s?

Quoting PANAM_DC10 (reply 8):
Boeing's Mr Baseler was asked whether LAN were a potential 787 customer yesterday and here is his response


LAN is actually the 11th largest operator of 763s in the world, and if I remember correctly the largest in Latin America. This has to be considered in Boeing plans. But remember that Airbus was very smart negotiating with LAN the 340s and 320s, so it won't be an easy decision.

Quoting ZK-NBT (reply 9):
LAN quite well, weather they are happy with them I am not sure.


I don't see LAN getting rid od the 340s for their route to Australia, but they can suit a 777 in Europe-USA. I would love they idea, but I think Airbus would give first a free 340 before to allow an airline to give the message to the world: "I used a 340 and I chancged for a 777 cause it's much better!).

Let's hope we see more and more Boeing in LAN's fleet.

Another point; if LAN opens LAN Argentina, I think they will demand more widebodies for EZE-MAD, EZE-MIA, etc. What would LAN do? Maybe to clean some of the UA 744s parked in the desert? It would be gorgeous, wouldn't it?

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:03 am

Arcano:

Quoting Arcano (reply 12):
LAN is actually the 11th largest operator of 763s in the world, and if I remember correctly the largest in Latin America.


Lejos! In fact, I think LAN operate more 763s than AM, AV, A4, LB, MX, PU, RG and BRA combined!

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:16 am

LAN has 18 active B767s I believe.

Quoting LVZXV (reply 13):
Lejos! In fact, I think LAN operate more 763s than AM, AV, A4, LB, MX, PU and BRA combined!


Don't want to sound like I'm putting LA down or anything, but BRA has 1 767...

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:46 pm

AV also has only one 763 (N948AV)
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:46 pm

B767s in LATAM:

18 LAN (15P/3F)
07 Varig
06 AeroMexico
05 Avianca
03 Tampa
03 Mas Air
02 LAB
01 Mexicana
01 Absa
01 BRA
01 Pluna

48: Total LATAM
30: Total rest of LATAM w/o LA.

Total LAN: 15 pax + 3 Cargo + 3 Leased to MY/Absa

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:42 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (reply 9):
Um no they didn't. They fly them to Easter Island and PPT but they never flew to AKL and SYD.


I'm not sure, but I think LA used to operate to AKL way back in the late 70s - early 80s. Could well have been 707s, but will have to check that too.. There have certainly been LA 762s/763s to AKL in the 90s, I've seen the pics but they were charters I believe.
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:52 pm

LA didn't used to operate to AKL until it started the 340 service. They took over the route when QF withdrew its direct SYD-AKL-BUE services. Previously the closest LA had come with scheduled services was the already mentioned island hopping SCL-Easter Island-Tahiti route. That just falls within ETOPS requirements and is very isolated as well.

Previously they flew the odd plane through on proving routes and they also picked up some ex Air NZ DC10's in the earky 80's. Aerolineas was the first airline to fly the Australasia/South America direct route, with 747's in the late 1970's/early 1980's (temporarily halted due to the Falkands war, us lot being on Her Majesty's side) and QF joined for a short while with 744's in the late 1990's.

777Man, my comments about 777 is not another A V B thread, as I'd feel the same in an A330 flying on such isolated routes. The great circle mapper clearly shows that the deep south routes go well beyond 180 min and 240 min ETOPS.
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:17 am

Quoting Aerorobnz (reply 17):
I'm not sure, but I think LA used to operate to AKL way back in the late 70s - early 80s


Not really, there was one promotional flight PUQ-SYD, but only for marketing (707), regular service it's new, as posted

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:32 am

I would love to see LAN order the 777 or the 787. I think the 777 would be great for their MIA, MAD, FRT & JFK Routes. While the 787 would be great for flights to Latin American Capitals and in between SCL & EZE. Although the 787 would be great also for MIA because they could fly multiple 787's daily into MIA, as they do now w/ the 763's. As well all know, LAN operates to Bogota, Punta Cana, Caracas, Quito, Lima and of course Santiago out of MIA.

I too agree than LAN is indeed is one of the biggest 763 operators. At MIA, sometimes you think LAN has a hub there; with the wide array of 763's heading to South America, both passenger and freight versions.
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:11 am

Ghost77:

I was only counting 763s, in which case LAN's fleet is only matched by combining all other Latin American 763s outside of Chile. As you rightly illustrated, a number of 762s also operate in the region.

BTW, does AM still have only one 763 or have they added another?

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:15 am

Quoting PPVRA (reply 14):
putting LA down or anything, but BRA has 1 767...


Sorry to ask, but what is "BRA"???
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:45 am

Quoting Arcano (reply 22):
Sorry to ask, but what is "BRA"???


No problem, please ask anything I'll be more than happy to help with what I can.

Well, right now they are just a charter airline. "BRA" stands for Brasil Rodo Aereo and they operate a fleet of one B763 (mostly European charters), and eight 737s, -300s and -400s.


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After much pressure from DAC (Brazilian Civil Aviation Department) for them to become a regular scheduled airline, combined with VP's demise, they decided to enter the LCC market and go head to head with GOL... Certainly interesting to see what will happen, IMO.

They are/were part of Varig, but I don't know much about that affiliation (maybe some one could shed some light on the subject?).

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:14 am

Quoting PPVRA (reply 23):
please ask anything I'll be more than happy to help with what I can.



Thanks pal! I'll take your word when needed!!!!

Another question.

I flew today, and I saw a Southern Winds 767 parket at LAN hangar. Does anybody know if LAN just got another 767 from them, or it was an actuall A4 763 parked in SCL?

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:01 pm

LVZXV,

Oh I thought you were counting B762s also! Well if it wasn't for MEX or BOG high altitude I'm sure AM and AV would operate an all B763 fleet just like RG. Also I did a mistake on my list, I added 3 to MY when it's only 2 and I totally forgot A4's sole B763. But still that make 48 B767s in total. As for AM they still keep their sole B763 but I'm been told that perhaps by mid 06 will leave the fleet and will be replaced with a B772ER which would be AM's 3rd B777.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:23 pm

My mistake; I thought LA flew to AKL as an extension of the PPT service. Nice that LA have expanded to AKL and SYD in the last few years.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:28 pm

Quoting PPVRA (reply 23):
They are/were part of Varig, but I don't know much about that affiliation (maybe some one could shed some light on the subject?).


BRA operated some charters for Varig's Rotatur, Varig's charter airline. Currently Rotatur has an operational agreement with Lisbon-based EuroAtlantic. The B767 currently operated by BRA is ex-RG. As you should be aware, RG is phasing out all its B767 fleet in .

BRA will be Brazil's newest scheduled airline. A final authorisation from DAC is expected very soon. BRA currently operates charter flights in Brazil and Europe (e.g. MAD-REC and AMS-REC).

BRA's current fleet is 12 737s and 1 767 and by the end of the year they plan to have a fleet of 19 aircraft. BRA mainly operates in the Northeast Brazil market.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:03 am

Quoting Ghost77 (reply 16):
B767s in LATAM:

18 LAN (15P/3F)
07 Varig
06 AeroMexico
05 Avianca
03 Tampa
03 Mas Air
02 LAB
01 Mexicana
01 Absa
01 BRA
01 Pluna

48: Total LATAM
30: Total rest of LATAM w/o LA.

Total LAN: 15 pax + 3 Cargo + 3 Leased to MY/Absa

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Yes, AV has 5 767s....
4 762s and one single 763 as I said.

As a little correction, Tampa Cargo has 4 767s.
The fourth one, N770QT arrived some days ago via Porto Alegre.
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:07 am

Quoting 757MDE (reply 28):
Tampa Cargo has 4 767s.
The fourth one, N770QT arrived some days ago via Porto Alegre


Indeed, RG's VarigLog was responsible for the conversation of the B767 into cargo in its POA maintenance facility.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:56 am

Thanks for the info Hardi. There are some conflicting info about their fleet on the web, so I wasn't sure exactly how many 737s they have.

Quoting Hardiwv (reply 27):
BRA's current fleet is 12 737s and 1 767 and by the end of the year they plan to have a fleet of 19 aircraft.


Indeed, they are to receive more 737s.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:08 am

PPVRA:

As you said, BRA's fleet on the web has inacurate info.

Quoting Hardiwv (reply 29):
RG's VarigLog was responsible for the conversation of the B767


Sorry, I have to correct my post: VEM (Varig Engineering and Maintenance) was responsible for the convertion of Tampa's B767 into cargo. VEM facility in POA recently also coverted MD-11 for Thai Cargo.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:01 pm

Hola Arcano!

What you saw was A4's sole B763 "Don Bosco" (LV-AIX), undergoing heavy mainteance since the last week of February. Word had it that she was going to be overhauled at the VEM centre in POA, but I suppose LAN were just as capable and with all this talk of LAN now interested in buying A4...well, we'll see.

That 767 had flown for almost a year "sin parar", as the only long-haul aircraft in A4's fleet. While the 742 has eased the pressure (the second is due any moment), A4 seem quite content with their 767 and, if their situation improves, may even lease a couple more later this year.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:04 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 31):
Sorry, I have to correct my post: VEM (Varig Engineering and Maintenance) was responsible for the convertion of Tampa's B767 into cargo. VEM facility in POA recently also coverted MD-11 for Thai Cargo.


Wasn't it converted in Tel Aviv like the other 3?
Didn't know that, I thought Porto Alegre was just a stop from the delivery (which usually was via AMS). In Fact I remember the first plane N767QT was scheduled to come via Brazil also but I'm not sure if it happened at last.
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:23 pm

ZXV:

I actually saw the tail; I'll be back in SCL on thursday. I'll try to look better!

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:45 pm

This Year LAN will introduce 3 A319-100, 3 767-300ER (lease) and 2 new 767-300Freighter. This year LAN will not receive A340, and there studying a new type of aircraft for its longhaul routes.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:32 pm

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 33):
Wasn't it converted in Tel Aviv like the other 3?


VEM has a partnership with IAI (Israel Aircraft Industry) for 767 conversions. Only the conversion are made in POA, the parts are made/shipped from Israel. Not sure if there are still 767 conversions being done in Israel though.

So maybe they were converted in POA, but under IAI's name...

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 36):
VEM has a partnership with IAI (Israel Aircraft Industry) for 767 conversions


PPVRA, you are correct. IAI has a partnership agreement with RG's VEM and convertions are performed in POA.

757MDE:

This is the press-release:

http://www.varigvem.com.br/VME/VEM_Index.htm

VEM AND / KAND), USA - South Carolina">AND IAI SIGN CONTRACT FOR / SBFZ), Brazil">FOR
FREIGHTERS CONVERSION CENTER

Leader on the MRO / NZMS), New Zealand">MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul) segment in Latin America, VEM - Varig Engineering & Maintenance Inc., and one of the top 10 in the world, known by its excellence in heavy maintenance on commercial, military and corporate aircraft, now it also plays on the selected group of companies which perform aircraft large modification work.

A long term contract for passenger-to-freighter conversion for the B-767 aircraft has been signed with IAI - Israel Aircraft Industries appointing VEM as its Conversion Center outside Israel. Playing on MRO / NZMS), New Zealand">MRO business as an independent company for only two years, VEM already reached an international focus position on the MRO / NZMS), New Zealand">MRO arena, competing in the same level conditions with other traditional known companies.

According to the signed contract, VEM will be responsible for the one of the modification lines, the only one outside Israel, while the fabrication of mod kits, engineering, marketing and sales are under IAI responsibility.

One of the five hangars at VEM's Porto Alegre Maintenance Center, southern Brazil, is being specially prepared to house the conversion production line. The first aircraft is scheduled to enter into modification work as soon as the beginning of April/2004. This kind of job faces a high complexity degree, once aircraft undergo a deep structural modification. Airframe is partially disassembled and rebuilt for the installation of a main deck side cargo door. Passenger related systems are remove, floor beans are replaced/reinforced and ceiling height is increased for a full loading capability, besides other structural modifications and installation of the cargo handling system. On steady production, all the work will be done in 3 months, including a heavy maintenance check , CPCP, AD Notes cleaning and general painting, allowing a long maintenance-free post-modification life.

The first aircraft batch contracted to be converted at VEM's facilities belong to GECAS (GE Capital Aviation Services), the giant in aircraft leasing, the launch customer for the program.

VEM has a total staff of 4,100 and facilities in GIG and POA.

Rgs,

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:45 pm

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 35):
This Year LAN will introduce 3 A319-100, 3 767-300ER (lease) and 2 new 767-300Freighter. This year LAN will not receive A340, and there studying a new type of aircraft for its longhaul routes.


We all know that there are many rumors about LAN switching to 777s from A340s.
What do you know ?

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757MDE
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:33 am

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 36):
VEM has a partnership with IAI (Israel Aircraft Industry) for 767 conversions. Only the conversion are made in POA, the parts are made/shipped from Israel. Not sure if there are still 767 conversions being done in Israel though.

So maybe they were converted in POA, but under IAI's name...

Cheers,

PPVRA


Ok, but it was the fourth one only because the other three came straight from Tel Aviv via Amsterdam. If the other three were converted in Brazil then I think the delivery route was quite weird... Brazil - Netherlands - Colombia? naaa!

Thank you PPVRA and thank you Hardiwv also!
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:17 pm



Quoting 757MDE (Reply 39):
Ok, but it was the fourth one only because the other three came straight from Tel Aviv via Amsterdam

The information I have is that the other three were also converted by RG's VEM in POA. VEM-IAI agreement dates December/03 and the first B767 was converted in April/04.

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 39):
If the other three were converted in Brazil then I think the delivery route was quite weird... Brazil - Netherlands - Colombia?

I dont see any problem with the route. It does not make sense, but MROs are very expensive to be conducted. For example, THAI brought the MD-11s to be converted to cargo all the way from BKK to POA.

MRO is very sensitive business and you dont have many options in the market to extensive maintenance work.

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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:04 am

Hi guys,
Just a question on the 767s, I flew one to Punta Arenas in december and each seat had its own entertanment system. I flew back on another 767 and it didn´t, then in January I flew to Caracas and back and there was no entertainment. My question, does anybody know how many of the 767s have entertainment in each seat?
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:25 am

about half of them; all listed by registration in some past A.net thread...

regards from CCP airport, waiting for my 737 to carry me home...
in order: 721,146,732,763,722,343,733,320,772,319,752,321,88,83,744,332,100,738, 333, 318, 77W, 78, 773, 380, 73G, 788, 789, 346
 
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:24 am

Quoting LVZXV (Reply 32):
One question: When you saw it in SCL, did it still look something like this:

ZXV: Yesterday I took a second look (actually from the air while approaching to the runway) and it was the one without the blue belly; the white one.

Regards )(
in order: 721,146,732,763,722,343,733,320,772,319,752,321,88,83,744,332,100,738, 333, 318, 77W, 78, 773, 380, 73G, 788, 789, 346
 
757MDE
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RE: LAN 2005 Aircraft Orders

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:31 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 40):
I dont see any problem with the route. It does not make sense, but MROs are very expensive to be conducted. For example, THAI brought the MD-11s to be converted to cargo all the way from BKK to POA.

Yes, I'm just saying that if some Aircraft that is to operate in Colombia is converted in Brazil, then it's weird for it to be delivered via the Netherlands.
Still, I think only the 4th plane was converted there.
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