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Only The Russians Could Do This...

Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:37 pm


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That is one horrid aircraft  Wow!  Wow!
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:39 pm

It looks like a giant mechanical turtle...
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Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:41 pm

Only in Russia  Wink

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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:45 pm

Wow that's a monster out of a science fiction movie.
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:49 pm

Looks like the thing from metal gear solid  white 

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Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:50 pm

Man, I have seen many pictures of those Russian hydro-/ecranoplanes, but this one takes the cake. Totally UFO-esque.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:05 am

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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:14 am

Sort of looks like something George Lucas came up with for Star Wars!
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:45 am

Quoting BNAflyer78 (reply 7):
Sort of looks like something George Lucas came up with for Star Wars!


Dammit! You beat me to my thought.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:46 am

Its on display at Monino, less its wings. It was a WIG that could leave ground effect and was designed by Robert Bartini, an Italian who immigrated to the USSR. Beriev was forced to built the actual prototype.

 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:13 am

It really looks like the nose of a B-29. The erkanoplanes were a very interesting concept for aircraft. I read something about a ground effect troop-transport that was developed. It flew/skimmed the surface of the water at some ungodly speed, a couple of hundred kp/h.

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Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:47 am

The Beriev Bartini VVA 14 is/was not an ecranoplane. It could fly at high altitudes and low over the water surface. It's a VTOL amphibious aircraft!

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/vva/vva_e.htm

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Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:57 am

The WINGS series at the Discovery channel had an episode about these planes!!
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:07 am

What the hell is that? I think I saw it on the Austin Powers movie. Looks like Dr. Evil's private jet.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:19 am

I wonder if it has a mouth as a door...
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:29 am

Ercano, Ecrano, what the hell is that thing anyways?
It is only to me or looks like that thing has a face?

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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:39 am

Well....... its certainly.....creative....I guess.
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:35 am

And we were dissing the A380. Smile
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:45 am

You are all wrong......it's from Star TREK!
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:05 am

It looked better in real life. But maybe i was just distracted by the amazing cold in monino.
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:16 am

It was eventually used to scare away cockroaches.
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:19 am

My god! That's horrible! :p .. it looks like a flying turtle!
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:28 am

Now we know where the inspiration for the A380 came from...
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:38 am

Maybe there are some KGB agents hidden in there.
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:54 am

Well...you know the old saying about airplanes:

If it's weird, It's British. If it's ugly, It's French. If it's weird and ugly, it's Russian.  Big grin
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:05 am

Quoting Gkirk (reply 0):
That is one horrid aircraft


You mean it actually FLIES? This might just be my opinion, but I think a school bus has a better chance of getting of the ground than that hunk o' junk...
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:51 am

That airplane is one of those whose crudeness on the ground is equally matched by its technique for grabbing the air and bending it to its will.

This bird has its own ugly-duckling beauty. The idea that it flew at all proves that physics is fluid.  Wink
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:12 pm

I dont think it flew so much as it was repelled by the earth for being too ugly.
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:30 pm

SVIMVEAR!!......EVENINKVEAR!!.....er, AIRPLANEVEAR!!!

some of you might remember an old commercial with an old Russian lady parading around in different outfits during a Soviet fashion show......if you do remember then the above will make sense.
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:52 pm

How can something like that fly? Gotta give the Russians credit for managing to get something like that off the ground...  wink 

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Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:56 pm

The only thing the Russians did right was the Tu-144 Charger. I can't say that much for the pilots at the Paris Airshow.
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:04 pm

Quoting Kerberos (reply 27):
I dont think it flew so much as it was repelled by the earth for being too ugly.


It looks worse than an A380, and it sure it has to look even uglier, maybe even scary in flight!  silly 

Maybe a movie director to use it in a future movie?  biggrin 
But yes, only the Russians could come up with such a weird design  laughing 
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:20 pm

The Soviets had a bunch of these WIG vehicles, small and huge. One of the most impressive was the Korabl' Maket (KM).

Found this on http://www.samolet.co.uk/km.html


http://www.samolet.co.uk/jpegs/km_11.jpg

How'd you like to see this bearing down on you at 0.8 warp speed?!
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:41 pm

To me they look like something out of Spaceballs
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:47 pm

Quoting Waukewan (reply 30):
The only thing the Russians did right was the Tu-144 Charger. I can't say that much for the pilots at the Paris Airshow.


Surely you're joking ?
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:52 pm

Quoting BNAflyer78 (reply 7):
Sort of looks like something George Lucas came up with for Star Wars!


Quoting CRJ200Mechanic (reply 33):
To me they look like something out of Spaceballs

Man, I swear the enemy attacked me with one of these in a video game once...  eyepopping 

Pelican: Thanks for the link. This makes a lot more sense seeing it with wings!
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:35 pm

That last picture looks a lot like one of those amphibious fictional aircraft from the "Storm Rider" attraction at the Tokyo Disney Sea Resort that I've been to at least four times in the last two years...
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:04 pm

Sure looks weird.Are they any still Flying.
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Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:42 pm

Those Russian ground effect planes are really fascinating IMO, when the sovjets came up with the first one the western secret services thought that the Russians had invented a possibility to speed up ships on more then 300 mph...
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:34 pm

Just shows the quality of this forum...

38 Replies and about 35 saying this thing looks horrible, useless junk,russian technology is poor...etc.

What are you guys thinking. If you're really into aviation you would like all planes... just because these aircraft look horrible doesn't mean they aren't technological marvels. Also, exploring all the possibilities in aviation is the only way mankind can progress in this sector. These Ekranoplans have surely supplied a wealth of info regarding new possibilities in air transport.
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:45 pm

Sorry, SAA-SAL, but there is just some planes that aviation enthusiasts just think are plain ugly  Wink
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:11 pm

No need to state things like the "only good thing the Russians built was the TU 144". Probably many of those who are so vociferous about their statements have never been in a Russian plane. It is true that currently due to the economic situation in Russia, the aircraft industry is pretty much dead, but that doesn't mean that the Russians haven't built many good planes over the years. There are a lot of great planes that were built. Try a TU 154 and you will feel the power and the beauty of flying in this trijet. Try the IL 96 and you'll get the feel of a Soviet Jumbo Jet. And the list continues.
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:32 pm

My God! Its full of stars!
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:45 pm

I think it looks fantastic. Futuristic and looks like something out of Star Wars. Ahead of its time perhaps?

Russia designed some truly amazing aircraft, I find these really interesting and so different from your standard boring looking planes.

Is there anywhere I can find more informaiton on them? Any videos of them?
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:40 pm

The only thing the Russians did right was the Tu-144 Charger.


You must be joking. The Tu-144 was one of the most screwed-up attempts to put prestige before common sense in the history of aviation - far from being "done right" it was a cacophonous, bone-shaking technical nightmare whose loss at the Paris Air Show was the aerodynamic equivalent of being put out of its misery.
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting Backfire (reply 44):
the Paris Air Show was the aerodynamic equivalent of being put out of its misery.


In the early 1990's the U.S. paid for one of the original Tu-144's to be refurbished as a technology testbed. They gave it to NASA which experimented on it to try to develop a second generation of supersonic transport. Check it out.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/FactSheets/FS-062-DFRC.html
 
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:35 am

The Mig-29 is a pretty awesome plane no matter how you slice it
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:12 am

I think the AN124 was the best by the Russians.
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:34 pm

Su 27 and Mig 29/31 are indications of what they can do in military terms.

Plenty of types in civil.
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RE: Only The Russians Could Do This...

Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:55 pm

I had the opportunity to fly a Tu-134 from LED to SVO a few years back. I had a seat over the wing. What amazed me was that the rivets on the wing were not flush, but rounded.

The aircraft was built like a tank, but made more noise. Nonetheless, I was in awe - it represented raw, tough, and lasting engineering. However, there was a strange sucking sound coming from my window (I am not joking).

Wasn't there an early mantra of the Soviet aircraft industry that went something like "systems so simple that a Ukrainian farm boy can repair them"?
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