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Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:04 am

I'm wondering if anyone is going to the ITB (Internationale Tourismus-Börse = Int'l Tourism Fair) in Berlin next week? Many airlines will be there and they usually give away nice stuff.  thumbsup 


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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:16 am

I could puke right now!

I am really interested to visit the ITB and I was just thinking: "The perfect opportunity to use one of these crappy ID tickets which I get via my girlfriend" but seconds later I realized that no airline is flying HAM-BER and the ICE is probably too expensive  Angry.

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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:59 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (reply 1):
I realized that no airline is flying HAM-BER and the ICE is probably too expensive


Oh yes, our famous "Bahn" certainly charges rip off fares. I don't have a choice and drive up - but I would do that even WITH appropriate rail connections down here.


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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:43 pm

I will be there now for the 17th time - without a brake since 1988 !
 
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:04 pm

Chiguire,

Will you be there every day? Where will you be located at?


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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:35 pm

I am there from 12 to 14. And around almost everywhere. Just looking for Airlines.
 
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:41 pm

Will be in Berlin from Saturday till Tuesday - and will go by DB because driving car at this weather suc*s.

Boeing has an own stand again, Airbus doesn't.

But I am going to visit the airlines anyway, best is that Monday and Tuesday are not that full.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:44 pm

what airlines have stands at the ITB?
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:55 pm

Hi, Avianca,
lots of Arabic airlines have own stands, such as Etihad, Emirates, Qatar Airways, Yemenia, Iran Air, Mahan Air, ... lots of other airlines are sharing desks at tourist organisations.

almost every airline flying to Germany and lots of airlines all over the world. Last year I also saw Maledives Air Taxi.

Go to www.itb-berlin.de and check out, Avianca. Or are you interested in a special airline?

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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:05 am

Quoting Udo (reply 2):
Oh yes, our famous "Bahn" certainly charges rip off fares. I


Aaaaah, yes Germany's favorite domestic enemy - everybody thinks he is expert in railway system here.
Udo, I will go by train from Frankfurt and have got special rates for ITB. Better to inform yourself than bashing companies .  24 Euros each way for 2x4 hrs ICE ride isn't too expensive in my opinion.
Also 93 % of DB's trains are in time (source: Spiegel) and that's much more than any airline that flies to bigger airports can offer.

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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:11 am

looks very intresting, sadly I am still ill at home...
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:14 am

Avianca, got the flue? At the moment almost everybody has flue or ill back.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:18 am

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 11):
Avianca, got the flue? At the moment almost everybody has flue or ill back.


oh yes  Smile
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:27 am

To be honest, AV, there are some more exciting things I can imagine than walking through fair halls with lots of people.
On the other hand it's cool to talk with the airline representitives, especially mon and tue when halls are not that full.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:34 am

I just checked the train fares, 110 EUR for an ICE ride to Berlin an back  Wow!.

Rip-off  Angry

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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:42 am

lol @ Sabena. Very simple solution (like plane fares): get your discount by booking earlier or use periods that are not that busy.
ITB Berlin - check out hotel fares, which have double price than normal, check out DBA or LH fares where cheap prices are sold out (or weren't offered).
Rip Off? Planes and trains are full to/from ITB - DB offered fares for 24 Euro each route, also free tickets with night trains (couchette) for travel agents. Sorry, but I didn't find any airline that brought people to the ITB without costs.
I get my ticket paid from our company, but I still try not to spend that much money - rip off during ITB are hotel costs, that's for sure.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:17 am

I'm still considering it - not sure when or if I'll go, but if I do go to Berlin, I'll do absolutely everything to avoid going there on either Saturday or Sunday...

Maybe I'll take a day off on Monday... visit the colleagues that were unlucky enough to be damned into having to stand there during the fair... Big grin ... and I still need to get rid of some overtime and some days off that I didn't use last year...
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 9):
Aaaaah, yes Germany's favorite domestic enemy - everybody thinks he is expert in railway system here.


Really? Who?  confused 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 9):
Udo, I will go by train from Frankfurt and have got special rates for ITB.


Good for you! Congratulations! Wonders still happen!  eyepopping 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 9):
. Better to inform yourself than bashing companies


It's always a pleasure to get advice from the  old 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 9):
24 Euros each way for 2x4 hrs ICE ride isn't too expensive in my opinion.


Such a fare cannot generally be found on DB's network. So the example is far from being representative.  sarcastic 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 9):
Also 93 % of DB's trains are in time (source: Spiegel) and that's much more than any airline that flies to bigger airports can offer.


Really? Have you compared the stats?  eyebrow 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 15):
Very simple solution (like plane fares): get your discount by booking earlier or use periods that are not that busy.


DB's fares are still far away from being comparable to LCC airline fares...


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 15):
Sorry, but I didn't find any airline that brought people to the ITB without costs.


Who would expect a free ride?  nosy 



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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:08 am

I was an exhibitor at ITB 2004 (not for an airline, though). With the ITB being the largest tourism fair in the world, attending or exhibiting there is a great experience, in which you get to see people from every, and I do mean EVERY, corner on earth.

Other than that, however, I would not recommend just visiting the fair - certainly if your business is not in the tourism industry. Admission is very expensive (about 40 Euros), the fair is just too big and not easy to wander around (as opposed to its competitor, the WTM, for example), and lodging prices in the area skyrocket.

When it comes to seeing airlines and receiving gifts, I wouldn't expect much. You won't see planes, but boring desks with marketing specialists, trying to "hunt" tourism agents. Most of them do their job with great success, but with little to enrich the airliners enthusiast's world. The gifts you'll walk out with will generally be some plastic bags, a funny hat and the occasional chocolate.

So, if I was to be asked, ITB can be a lot of fun for a few hours if someone is paying for your hotel and your badge. If not, and especially if tourism is not your business, you might be a little disappointed.

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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:18 am

Quoting Focus (reply 18):
Other than that, however, I would not recommend just visiting the fair - certainly if your business is not in the tourism industry. Admission is very expensive (about 40 Euros)


The admission is around 12 Euro for the public, or just half of it for students, disabled people and kids.


Quoting Focus (reply 18):
When it comes to seeing airlines and receiving gifts, I wouldn't expect much.


I have always got lots of stuff, ranging from stickers, pens, pins up to posters or interesting brochures. But it depends on the airlines. Asian and Arabian carriers are much more generous than Europeans or others.


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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:14 am

lol, Udo, I can show you the ticket. And it's 24 Euro. Of course they don't sell thousands of them.

Very simple: first come, first serve. And when you're too late, you have to pay more. That's life.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:41 am

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 20):
lol, Udo, I can show you the ticket. And it's 24 Euro. Of course they don't sell thousands of them.


I cannot remember having questioned that ticket price...  confused 
But if it makes you happy to show it to me, I can give you my fax number!  hyper 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 20):
Very simple: first come, first serve. And when you're too late, you have to pay more. That's life.


Amen. After getting used to your teacher-like, almost daily advice, I'm wondering: could I still survive without?  scared 
Anyways, first of all, train connections here would rule out taking the "Bahn". Second, even if connections were available at a low price, I would still take the car for several reasons. So, I couldn't care less what Bahn charges and not.  cheeky 


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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:14 am

ok, Mr. Journalist, think about visiting the ITB but don't think too long (ooops, teacher me  Wink )
Journalists are always talking and talking and nothing else.
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RE: Anyone Going To ITB (tourism Fair) Next Week?

Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:53 am

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 22):
ok, Mr. Journalist, think about visiting the ITB but don't think too long (ooops, teacher me Wink )


Why? Fares on my car aren't limited.  silly 


Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 22):
Journalists are always talking and talking and nothing else.


You mean "they always talk", don't you?  tongue 
Btw, if you don't like these journalists, why don't you just turn off RTLII and read a newspaper next time?  bitelip 


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