PITA333
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US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:52 am

When I was searching a flight status on the US Airways website, I accidentally typed in flight 13 instead of the flight I intended to look up, flight 14. When I looked at US Flight 13, it says that it leaves Louis Trichardt, SOUTH AFRICA LCD bound for PIT. Now last time I check, US did not even serve the continent of Africa! The LCD-PIT route shows up as non-stop on the flight status page, but it is not in the booking system. Does anyone have an explanation? It can't be a codeshare, or at least I think not. Maybe a repeating charter as it shows up daily (on the flight status system) when I did more searches. Maybe I'm being ignorant to something, but I'm just curious because I couldn't find an answer.

Thanks a lot!

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FlyTheFlag
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:54 am

This came up on FlyerTalk recently.....

It's a dummy flight number for internal uses, like storing information or running system tests. Most airlines do this... just a few where it will show up on the website flight status. I believe US113 is another example. American has quite a few. They aren't real flights.
 
Leskova
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:18 am

Aside from the explanation that FlyTheFlag gave - not even SAA or SA Airlink have scheduled flights to Louis Trichardt, so seeing US (or any other international airline) there would be somewhat of a surprise...

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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:53 am

I can't believe that this is in the system for the public. I just thought it was something that we can access from sabre, and within US Airways partition It is called a psuedo flight, not sure if I can go into detail about its use, but I can say we use when making certain bookings, or the PNR would not be able to be priced. As mentioned it is for internal use.
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lincoln
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:06 am

Gee, I wonder what kind of aircraft they're using on that route?  Smile Whatever it is is mighty quick ... leaves South Africa at 8:00 AM and arrives in PIT at 9:00 AM! -- only an hour of flight time?  Wink  Wink

Seripusly, though, I would be most curious about what a flight like this would be used for when building a PNR/

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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting Lincoln (reply 4):
Whatever it is is mighty quick ... leaves South Africa at 8:00 AM and arrives in PIT at 9:00 AM! -- only an hour of flight time?


Don't forget the time zones. It would still be a quick flight though.

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captaink
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:20 am

Very good question. I didn't question, I just do it cause I dont have a choice...

Just like you have to put an ARNK between segments that are not connected in a PNR. Why shouldn't sabre allow you to issue the ticket? What the big deal with the ARNK?

That is how they program the system, so we just have to use it..  Smile

Come on, I know there are some major sabre guys on here, speak up....Help us out here...
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:27 am

I think we use every "13" flt number like that. When you flifo any flight with a 13 in it the flight come up like the flight 13 the post is about. Everything from 13,1313, 113 and so on is some weird route most of which contain PIT in them.
 
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:29 am

Here's US 113

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Carcassonne, FRANCE (CCF) Airport: Usair 3, PA (OPN)

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Scheduled Time:
8:00am Scheduled Time:
9:00am

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Estimated Time:
8:00am Estimated Time:
9:00am

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Usair 3, PA (OPN) Airport: Louis Trichardt, SOUTH AFRICA (LCD)

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Scheduled Time:
10:00am Scheduled Time:
10:40am

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Estimated Time:
10:00am Estimated Time:
10:40am

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Louis Trichardt, SOUTH AFRICA (LCD) Airport: Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)

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Scheduled Time:
11:10am Scheduled Time:
11:55am

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Estimated Time:
11:10am Estimated Time:
11:55am

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Pittsburgh, PA (PIT) Airport: Usair 1, PA (FFX)

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Scheduled Time:
12:30pm Scheduled Time:
1:30pm

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Estimated Time:
12:30pm Estimated Time:
1:30pm

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Usair 1, PA (FFX) Airport: Pagosa Springs, CO (PGO)

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Scheduled Time:
1:55pm Scheduled Time:
3:00pm

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Estimated Time:
1:55pm Estimated Time:
3:00pm

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time

US Airways Flight 113

Sunday, March 6, 2005
Departure Arrival
Airport: Pagosa Springs, CO (PGO) Airport: Planeta Rica, COLOMBIA (PLC)

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Scheduled Time:
3:35pm Scheduled Time:
4:30pm

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Estimated Time:
3:35pm Estimated Time:
4:30pm

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Gate:
Not Available Gate:
Not Available

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Aircraft:
Not Available Baggage Claim:
Not Available
Status: On Time
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:49 am

Quoting Captaink (reply 6):
Just like you have to put an ARNK between segments that are not connected in a PNR. Why shouldn't sabre allow you to issue the ticket? What the big deal with the ARNK?


SABRE won't allow you to price a PNR with ARNK segments? I could have sworn that an ex-travel agent coworker (psuedo city C2T -- install #592) told me this was possible if convoluted, though he hasn't touched SABRE in several years (Bob - email me if you find this and know the answer  Smile)

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dan2002
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:56 am

Take a look at this thread I started about some weird things on Sabre awhile back.http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1015087

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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:01 pm

Lincoln, what i mean to say, is that without and ARNK between cities that are not connected, you would not be able to price the PNR.

Seg1 GND-SJU
Seg2 LGW-GND

I do pull up reservations that are already ticketed, and do have cities that are not connected without an ARNK. Maybe the ARNK was taken out after, or the reservations agents know something I don't. They usually have little tricks up their sleeves, that we at the ticket counter don't know about.  Smile

However with coterminals. E.g. MIA and FLL... You don't really have a problem.

Seg1 GND-MIA
Seg2 FLL-GND


SO where did you guys get this psuedo flight? One I use is US1213 PIT/OPN.. where the hell is OPN?
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captaink
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:05 pm

Sorry that was US213.. not 1213..

And I found it, the FLIFO on the site brings it up.. COOL>..
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:11 pm

Heh, take a look at what I found.

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US AIR SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA / KSEA), USA - Washington">SEA DESK , NORTH CAROLINA , USA
QUS
US AIRWAYS , DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA , USA
UXV
US AIRWAYS GSA , QATAR
UZQ
US AIRWAYS GSA , CHINESE TAIPEI
UZZ
US AIRWAYS GSA , CHINESE TAIPEI
UZY
US AIRWAYS GSA , IRELAND
UZX
US AIRWAYS GSA , MALTA
UZW
US AIRWAYS GSA , BAHRAIN
UZT
US AIRWAYS GSA , OMAN
URK
US AIRWAYS ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC , VIRGINIA , USA
XNC
US AIRWAYS VAC , WISCONSIN , USA
FFX
USAIR 1 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
OXG
USAIR 1 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
XCG
USAIR 2 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
OPN
USAIR 3 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
XLT
USAIR 3 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
XNP
USAIR 4 , PENNSYLVANIA , USA
HXU
UNITED AIR KHI, , PAKISTAN
UAY
UNITED AIRLINES, , FRANCE
UAZ
UNITED AIRLINES, , UNITED KINGDOM
UMA
UNITED AIRLINES, , SINGAPORE
XUA
UNITED AIRLINES, ILLINOIS, USA
VUA
UNITED OFFICES, , VENEZUELA
UQR
UNITED TRAVEL ISB, , PAKISTAN
RQE
UNITED TRAVEL PEW, , PAKISTAN
EIK
UNITED TRAVEL SFO / KSFO), USA - California">SFO / KSFO), USA - California">SFO / KSFO), USA - California">SFO, CALIFORNIA, USA
HHO
UNITED TRVL BAH / OBBI), Bahrain">BAH / OBBI), Bahrain">BAH / OBBI), Bahrain">BAH, , BAHRAIN
FWB
UNITED TRVL DIR, , PAKISTAN
FPJ
UNITED TVL / KTVL), USA - California">TVL / KTVL), USA - California">TVL / KTVL), USA - California">TVL KHI, , PAKISTAN
HBP
UNITED WINGS DEA, , PAKISTAN
LQA
HDQ CARGO MALTA, , MALTA
XPQ
HDQ INTER CDN, , CANADA INSIDE BUFFER ZONE
QDB
HDQ INTL DIV, TEXAS, USA
HQS
HDQ OA PASS OFC, TEXAS, USA
HDI
HDQ TICKET OFC, , THAILAND
BKH
HDQ TKT COUNTER, , THAILAND
HWR
HDQ WEST REGION, , MALTA
COP
CARGO OPERATIONS, NORTH CAROLINA, USA
YPK
PITTS MEADOW BC, , CANADA INSIDE BUFFER ZONE
IBM
PHONE SALES KM, , MALTA
-Dan

[2005-03-07 04:25:37]

[Edited 2005-03-07 04:38:27]
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captaink
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:17 pm

BAHRAIN?
QATAR?
CHINESE TAPEI

Maybe US should consider a few of these places lol... Z
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:21 am

It's for training/ PNR/ticketing etc...
 
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:26 am

Just like with most, if not all, airliners in the world, flightnumber 13 doesn't exist. Has to do with superstition...  Smile

[Edited 2005-03-07 18:27:03]
 
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RE: US Airways In South Africa!?!?!

Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:48 am

** US - US AIRWAYS **
FLIGHT INFORMATION
FLIGHT 13 - OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS SAT 12MAR 2005

STA SARRV SDEPT AGTE DGTE A/C EQP BCL DPZ UPFLT
LCD 800A
PIT 900A

CURRENT GMT - 1745Z/07MAR
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US don't publish this schedule outside of Sabre, but you can get it via Direct Access.
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