airborn86
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Iberia 747s

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:40 pm

Hi, I was just wondering when Iberia will retire its 747-200/-300s. I just came back from a trip to Buenos Aires from Stockholm flying on an Iberia A340-600. I thought Iberia already retired their old 747s and replaced them with the -400 and the A340s, but when I was taking off to Buenos Aires, there was a 747-200 taxiing pararell to us. Can anyone give me some useful information? I would appreciate it.

P.S: I am sorry if a thread similar to this one was already posted before. I tried to look for another thread similar to this one but I couldn't find any.
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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Iberia 747s

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:59 pm

hi,

I just posted that EC-DIB is still flying in service. EC-DIB is the last classic flying in IBs fleet after EC-DIA was retired in December, one IB recives its next A346 DIB should be retired. IB only has two 744s which fly to HAV and TFN.
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af3876
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RE: Iberia 747s

Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:59 pm

Hi, if i'm not wrong the only 747-200 still flying from IB's fleet is the EC-DIB which was going to be retired last month, but due to a technical problem with one of the Air Atlanta's, Iberia got an extension till the end of this month for the EC-DIB, therefore will be retired as soon as the Air Atlanta one is ready to fly again.

EC-DIA and EC-HVD are already stopped.
 
AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Iberia 747s

Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:42 pm

Af3876


Yes EC-DIB is the last classic in service, I saw it yesterday. I have not seen TF-ATI probaly becuase it was damaged and is in tech, but I have not seen ATJ.
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Icaro
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:40 am

airborn86,

Ec-DIB is still flying till TF-ATI comes back to service. The two 300's will remain in IB's fleet at least till October, but they will be operated by Air Atlanta like the two 400's. The 300's will only do the rotation of one aircraft, thus leaving always one plane on the ground as an spare aircraft in case any other one goes tech.

By the way, when did you come back from Buenos Aires?? I just made that flight arriving at Madrid on Saturday afternoon? Did I carry you home? ´ crossfingers 

And something else, how did you find the experience of flying IB? Was it that horrible?  Wink

Was it one of the new 600's with the new config? How did you find it?
 
bennett123
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:45 am

Where are EC-DIA and EC-HVD now?.
 
af3876
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:46 am

Bennett123,

DIA and HVD are parked at La Muñoza, Madrid waiting to sold. Both of them need a C and D checks.
 
rootsair
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:13 am

EC-DIA "Tirso de molina" was my fetish IB 747 as I've flown it like 4 times....hope it will get a new owner and not be scrapped..." Long live EC-DIA
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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:05 am

I saw DIA and HVD the other day at La Munoza, it looks like they have started taking apart EC-DIA. I found a great spot at MAD for spotting its amazing, I could lay down on the ground and feel like I was at SXM!!! I had a A340-600 fly right over my head, I got a great photo of it, I am going to upload it to A.net
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Fermarta
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:38 am

Quoting Icaro (reply 4):
The two 300's will remain in IB's fleet at least till October, but they will be operated by Air Atlanta like the two 400's


Will they keep their First / Business cabins or change it to the 400's Business only?

Out of theme but there is, at last, an opening date for the new Terminal: Jan. 29, 2006
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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:49 am

Oh no! January 29, 2006! That a long ways away! I was hoping that they would open it in August, becuase I am flying out of MAD to JFK on Aug 1st, oh well...
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IBERIA747
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:28 am

Jan 29 2006??

Pretty normal for our beloved country. And that is if Spanair's demands are not successful (hopefully not), because if they are then we'll have to wait 2 more years and the terminals will be obsolete by the date they'll be finally opened.

BTW I went to TFN a week ago for the 2nd time on the 744 (TF-AMA this time) and the chief purser on the MAD-TFN leg was the same that was in charge of TF-ATI when it aborted it's take off. Had a nice chat with him about it.
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Icaro
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RE: Iberia 747s

Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:02 am

Fermarta,

I haven't heard anything about converting them to B/C and Y/C only and I don't think they are going to spend any money on those planes because they are going to leave the fleet soon, and might be replaced by more 400's.
That is what we were told two weeks ago in one course by the long-haul on board service director. We were also told that the 757's we going to be operated on wet lease as well and that new 330's were being looked at, as we need an aircraft capable of doing long and medium haul, basically for Caribbean and the Canary Islands.
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IBERIA747
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RE: Iberia 747s

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:54 am

Just read some interesting info on last issue of Avion Revue...

If the curent talks between Iberia and Madrid-Barajas Airport Management come to a good end, then one of IB's Boeing 747-200s will be put in permanent exhibition in the area between Terminals 1 and 2, right where another IB's DC-9 is being assembled for the same purpose. Wouldn't that be great?

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na
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RE: Iberia 747s

Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:11 am

That would be great indeed. IBs 742s were very faithfully serving their owner and at least one deserves to be preserved as a lasting symbol of the greatest bird ever owned by Spain´s flag carrier. When at Madrid I was always happy to see them. I think IBs livery suits the 747 very well.
 
Iberia340600
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RE: Iberia 747s

Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:11 pm

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 13):
If the curent talks between Iberia and Madrid-Barajas Airport Management come to a good end, then one of IB's Boeing 747-200s will be put in permanent exhibition in the area between Terminals 1 and 2, right where another IB's DC-9 is being assembled for the same purpose. Wouldn't that be great?

Alfonso...

That would be great!!!! I really hope they do that. I just wish they would have done that with EC-GAG(ex. EC-BRQ) "Calderon de la Barca" before they scrapped it. I still get shed a tear everytime I look at the pictures of the demolisher digging into the fuselage of EC-GAG.

Icaro,

Are you sure about the 757's being wetleased? I know the 747-300's will go back to wet-lease but I was under the impression that the remaining B757's would be returned to the lessor as the new A-321's came in(so far that is what has been happening).
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airborn86
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RE: Iberia 747s

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:03 pm

HAHAHAH thanks for the information I appreciate it.

Icaro, actually I was supposed to fly back to Madrid from Buenos Aires on the 26th of february (22:30) if im not mistaking. But the airplane was over booked and they offered me 150 euros, 4 star hotel and free transportation if I would stay one more day. This was actually better for me since Im an 18 year old and I got to enjoy one more night of Buenos Aires together with my friends. So I flew on sunday instead (14:10) and arrived in Madrid at 6:10 monday morning (feb 28).

Are you a pilot yourself? That is quite cool. I actually became good friends with one of your collegues (Javier Vengoa). He flew me to Buenos Aires on the 11th of february and let me be in the cockpit part of the way.

Well to be honest, Iberia is a very good airline and with great pilots. Both of the landings with the -600 were greezers and the flights were smooth the whole way. But I have to admit that I hade my doubts with the flight attendants. On the way back, they were wuite disorganized and very rude. They started to serve breakfast about one hour before landing, so they had to hurry everything up in the end. They also seemed quite stressed which turned them quite rude to the passengers. I remember I had to go to the bathroom and all the bathrooms were occupied so I had to wait next to the galley and then one of the flight attendants told me: quote: "Señor, no se quede aqui, porque esta parado?!" I didn't like his tone at all and that made me ask for the complaine sheet.

Although I didn't have a very good experience flying back to Madrid, I enjoyed Iberia very much (specially flying to Buenos Aires) and you can be sure that I'll fly Iberia a lot in the future.

Anyways, thx for the information about the 747's and I hope to fly with Icaro some time in the future.

P.S: The flight to Buenos Aires: EC-IQR (Salvador Dali)
The flight to Madrid: EC-JBA (Joaquín Rodrigo)
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