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The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:17 pm

KLM Life Photo Album

The above link is to a photo album via Pbase.com. It's the life of a now (ex)
KLM f/a. Her contract was up and she was out. While it lasted it was a great job, clearly, and was well documented through her pictures. There are many of them.

Great find and a great few moments to view such a great album. Both on and off the job

Enjoy!

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:14 pm

This was a KLM flight attendant based in HKG
KLM has F/A and onboard translators for flights to ICN, KIX, NRT, PVG, PEK and HKG. I also think they did that on the KL 0877 to BKK/TPE.
All of them carry two stripes and are hired only for a certain period. (I think 4 years maximum).

KLM also had local F/A from India on its flight to BOM, DEL and CCU. I think they were loans from Jet Airways? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Do more airlines have crew basis outside their own country, specifically designed to overcome cultural and language barriers?

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:31 pm

I dont know really, JAL and CX I know have crews based at LHR, but you have to be fluent in Cantonese or whatever to fly with them.
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:34 am

My best friend was a LHR based Senior JL F/A

he did not know Japanese much, but atleast he knew English and was European, so he qualified and flew the Europe-Japan and Australia-Japan sectors, even the Japan-India.

he now works as an F/A on BA with Eurofleet LHR, got tired of the long haul for now.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:28 am

Excellent Album!

Thank you for sharing..........  Wink
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:16 am

BA serves the LHR-MEX route with mexican F/A along with British F/A
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:32 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 3):
My best friend was a LHR based Senior JL F/A

he did not know Japanese much, but atleast he knew English and was European, so he qualified and flew the Europe-Japan and Australia-Japan sectors, even the Japan-India.


Quoting Anthsaun (Reply 5):
BA serves the LHR-MEX route with mexican F/A along with British F/A


Is this because of language barriers?

Thanks.

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:36 am

Is this because of language barriers?

That's a big part of it. Also it really does enhance the customer experience to be spoken to in their own language. Smart move
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:37 am

I enjoyed every picture of the KLM F/A ... i do hopefully one day I am able to work for KLM  Smile
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:59 am

wow interesting, yesterday i was flying IAD-ORD on UA and a lot of the crew members they had were based in LAX, SFO and DEN spoke many different languages which made it more interesting. BTW, UAL has a hub in NRT i believe to take care of the F/A issue.
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:07 am

Having flown KLM numerous times, I can see why KLM experience was always great. Its the 'spirit and enthusiasm' of such fine person that makes it all possible. Enjoyed the album. Thanks.
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:21 am

Nice photo album. And a very pretty young lady too. KLM is one of the greatest airlines of all time.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:29 am

Sweet. It was great to see a F/A in work! :p thx for the link
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:00 am

Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!  Silly

But seriously, I have flown BOS-DEN and back quite a few times, and a flight attendant on board (he always seemed to be on this route) spoke Swedish. Don't know why he's on a BOS-DEN flight!
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:24 am

UA actually has a LHR F/A base as well as in their hubs.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:52 am

What a wonderful album.. Ada sure has a lot of nice colleagues  Smile
I sure do miss Amsterdam myself after looking at all those pictures. What a great city it is! Thx for sharing the album Matt.

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:10 am

BA has bases in all of Latinamerica, Middle East, India and parts of the Far East that I recall. I travelled once to Tokyo with BA and very big delegation from Colombia, and for our surprise we had a Colombian based cabin crew on the LHR-NRT sector.
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:33 am

Quoting QuestAir (Reply 13):
Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!


If anything I'd consider re-hiring this fa! (JK) I think this shows how great of a company KLM is. The way she speeks and the way that the crews are shown can only boost businss from KLM. It shows that they are a great respected airline that passengers and crew alike love!

Great airline!

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:22 pm

Cool photo album. It's quite clear that Ada and the gang had a great time at KLM. Then again, it seems Ada always has a good time no matter where she is (I quickly skimmed through some of her other photo albums) ...Camera always at the ready to preserve the memories.
I wonder who owns that collection of airplan models. I've got the same display cabinets for my models. The add-on lights are a nice touch. It's a pity Ikea discontinued the line because I wish I could get just one more of those display units (hint hint)
Anyway, cool pics. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:35 pm

American has bases in Bogota, Buenos Aires, Lima and Santiago. They are all staffed by foreign nationals, ie, they are not American citizens. They have different pay scales, different work rules and don't belong to the AA flight attendant union, APFA.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:12 pm

Quoting QuestAir (Reply 13):
Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!


Makes you wonder what KLM would think of this. However, the big difference is that this F/A is no longer employed with KLM, due to her contract expiring. The DL F/A was still on active payroll.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:39 am

big difference: the DL f/a was in suggestive positions in her photo album. None of this is suggestive. It's wholesome, clean fun. This shows the f/a taking pride in her work in and out of the office, and it shows the KLM staff bonding. That's good PR for an airline, kind of like the show "Airline" with WN - unlike seeing the DL f/a in a mini with lots of cleavage (not like I mind that sort of thing myself, but I'm not the CEO of DL).
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:02 am

NW has NRT base, but most of its F/A on the NRT-ASia routes are hired from BKK/MNL so they can work on a very low salary and most never even see the US. (no visas) I felt bad when some of the NW F/A based in BKK, MNL were all complaining to me about how NW treats them worse and the benefits are cut down much, since they do know the real pay and salaries, the NRT/USA ones get.
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:11 am

The reason why KLM has "local" staff, ofcourse it's because of the language barriers and knowledge of cultures.

Having a big market in South Korea, Japan and China/Hong Kong/Taiwan, it's no surprise that this is the way they work!

They dropped this service on the Indian flights, since most Indians speak English (most of them transferring in Amsterdam to either USA or Canada).

Most pursers with KLM speak French, German AND Spanish, so I guess no translators/speakers required on different routes.

Hey, maybe you guys want to check out this link. Also found it while surfing the net....

http://gawad.homeip.net/index.php
 
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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:24 am

Thanks for the cool link AA B777-200!

You should also start a sight when you start your flying carreer!

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RE: The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:15 pm

Not only cultural barriers, but also costs. Airlines are able to save money as normally cabin crews under temporary contracts in foreign countries cost them less, so there is certainly an economic reason also.

Countries like Australia (Qantas has foreign crews in Bangkok, Auckland), Netherlands or UK among others have enough multicultural societies as if the need to hire personnel that can speak others languages should be the sole purpose. Don't forget costs!

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