Orion737
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UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:23 am

These premium cabins are only the equivalent of a scheduled airlines economy cabins. I flew to the Caribbean with TCX and was desperate to try and get a premium seat, knowing how arduous the flight would be in a 3-3-3 A330 but the premium cabin was full.

After deplaning and seeing the 'premium' cabin for myself, Im glad I didnt bother. I have also read trip reports and spoken to friends who have travelled in the premium cabins of Monarch and TCX and they say, apart from the free drinks there is little difference service wise either.

I think they are a rip-off and I think First Choice has the right idea with their 767s putting them in a 2-3-2 unlike BY with their 2-4-2s
 
SignalOne
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:46 am

Hello Orion,

Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
I think First Choice has the right idea with their 767s putting them in a 2-3-2 unlike BY with their 2-4-2s


I think that have the right idea too.

In 2004 my family went on a First Choice A321 and so got to sit in Premium, now I thought it was great, there was a 4" difference in seat pitch, and you received 2 free drinks, headphones, reserved seating and priority baggage.
It cost £29 each including a meal, which we didn't pay for either.

If you add these things up individually, it would come to about £40, so it was worth it.

Longhaul though, looking at Britannia's Premium and Thomas Cook's, it doesn't seem worth the extra £279 each or whatever it may be. If you added these extras up separately, it would probably come to less than the price you paid.

Just my thoughts

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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:48 am

I really dont think that the Premium Cabins are the equivalent of the scheduled economy cabins. I saw TCX's premium and it had wide leather seats with a leg rest and quite a substantial recline with 36" legroom and a PTV..... non of which you would get on lets say AA 767 TransAtlantic!
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:48 am

Signalone, I too think the short haul FCA upgrade is good value but I think the premium long haul cabins on charter airlines is a rip off.
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:00 am

yeah i would agree its expensive. However I think Air Transats upgrade is reasonably priced and good value.....wide leather seats/4" extra legroom/food served in proper plates (with a plastic knife) v friendly service and only 4 rows of seats. Nice flight from NCL to Toronto all round!
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:51 am

Having experienced every singal Premium Cabin in the UK charter business expect for Excel, which is a new service. I have the following opinions;

Thomas Cook +

This was good value for money as the upgrade was cheap (special offer, offered by travel agent wanting business). Free drinks, ammenity kits, upgraded meals, couple of cabin attendants for the 45 seats, extra baggage and select a seat. 34" Seat Pitch and 2 - 3 - 2.

- 9/10

My Travel PremiarGold

Again very good, this was at the time they were experiencing problems with the games on the IFE and it crashed a couple of times but apart from that very much the same as thomas cook, ammenity, free drinks, upgraded meals and extra baggage. 35" Seat Pitch and 2 - 3 - 2.

- 8/10

MonarchPremium

Im not too keen on Monarch Premium as a whole, dont get me wrong it was good, however the seating is 2 - 4 - 2 which is a scheduled airline config, no leather seats, free drinks, newspapers and meals as well as reserved seating. IFE was good, not as good as MyTravel and Thomas Cook but still existant. 35" Seat Pitch and 2 - 4 - 2.

- 6/10

Britannia Airways Premium

The distinct lack of acceptable personal entertainment isnt a problem for me but for passengers with yuong children it would be. There was a problem with the Seat back system, theybrought a few dvd players but not enough for everyone. Free drinks, upgraded meals, reserved seating, priority check in and extra baggage. 34" Seat Pitch and 2 - 3 - 2.

- 6/10

First Choice Classic Premium Longhaul - BEFORE UPGRADE!

This was the same as Britannia really the first few rows of the front cabin, mini entertainment systems, free drinks, meals reserved seating and generally the same as the rest. Seats were a little torn and in need of TLC. Seat pitch 34" and 2 - 3 - 2.

- 7/10

First Choice Premium Service Shorthaul

As previously mentioned the 4" extra leg room is welcomed on a flight to LCLK and the 2 free drinks, darker seats, no extra width, first 4 rows and extra luggage allowance were all great. 3 - 3

- 9/10


Verdict

I think that premium cabins are worth the upgrade when they are less than £200, i no some go right up to £329 and that it just ridicous.

It seems to me that Tour Operators dont advertise there premium cabins very much, in most brochuers its just a small box at the bottom of the page. (First Choice the expection). If it were me i would have images on there and lots of information. Maybe even Testomonials.

[Edited 2005-03-09 22:11:51]
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting NCLairport (Reply 4):
Nice flight from NCL to Toronto all round!


I thought TS flights were only May-October?
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:25 am

Hello,

Quoting A321fly (Reply 5):
in most brochuers its just a small box at the bottom of the page. (First Choice the expection). If it were me i would have images on there and lots of information. Maybe even Testomonials.


I don't know if anyone has noticed, but in the tour operators brochures there is hardly ever any information on the Airline. (Exept FCA) In recent years the amount of pictures + info has got less and less.

Cheers  Smile Ryan
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:26 am

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 7):
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but in the tour operators brochures there is hardly ever any information on the Airline. (Exept FCA) In recent years the amount of pictures + info has got less and less.


I dont know why really they want to cut the amount of airline information down. Some people do actually want to look at it.

I remember Airtours used to have a big picture of the interior of there A330 with the PTV's now its a 4 * 4 cm box.
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:32 am

Yes, brochures hardly mention the airlines now. As a kid I used to get the Wings and Horizon brochures and cut out the pics of Orion!
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:37 am

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 9):
Yes, brochures hardly mention the airlines now. As a kid I used to get the Wings and Horizon brochures and cut out the pics of Orion!


Its not just the kids.  Wink
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:59 am

I used to do that, especially with the USA brochures, I would cut out the pictures, collect them and keep a list of how many pictures I would have of that airline, I thought I was the only one.
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:22 am

I used to get the pictures out of the brochures too, all gone now - well barring one UA 777  Wink

FCA have gone from strengh to strengh and are definitly leading the market *from what I can tell. When will the in-flight beauty therapists start to arrive?

Excel offer several premium cabins now and as soon as I catch a glimpse of one in person next month I'll give you my views on them  Wink

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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:44 am

hahaha i used to cut out the pics as well. I would get my mam to take me into town to the travel agents so i could get brochures and look at the planes. I was particulrly obsessed with BY between the ages of 6-12 as I wanted to fly on them so much and we kept getting Dan Air!!!!

ALCregular I did not mean that they flew all year round I meant it was a nice flight! "a nice flight all round" i.e. i had no problems with the flight.
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:35 am

A few memories coming back!

I remember, as me and my parents nearly always went on holiday with Airtours, cutting the picture of Airtours International Aircraft out of Airtours Summer Sun 1997, and being disappointed the year after when the picture in the next brochure was exactly the same!

I even framed the little picture! Here it is below, I am sure this is the picture that Airtours used to use for their old brochures!




It's probably in the loft somewhere with my old stuff!

Cheers Ryan   Cool

[Edited 2005-03-10 20:36:58]

[Edited 2005-03-10 21:01:58]
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:03 am



Quoting SignalOne (Reply 14):
even framed the little picture! Here it is below, I am sure this is the picture that Airtours used to use for their old brochures!

They have a B757 on there website currently (picture of), just with no titles which is very confusing.

http://www.mytravel.com/AniteNextPag...asp?p=FLIGHTONLY&t=5045&s=24457340
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:12 am

I remember when Airtours Int first got started, there was like, 3 pages on their own airline in the Airtours brochure, all they had in those days were the MD83s.

My mispent youth, cutting up brochures plane pics and sticking them in scrapbooks.

Aspro brochure used to have 3 whole pages as well about in house carrier Inter European.
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:13 am

The only two brochures i have seen recently that feature at least something substantial about airlines is First Choice and Cosmos Florida it has a large picture of the premium seating.
 
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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:15 am

Hi,

Quoting A321fly (Reply 15):
They have a B757 on there website currently (picture of), just with no titles which is very confusing.

http://www.mytravel.com/AniteNextPag...57340

The picture is of a 'neutral' aircraft because the web engine doesn't just sell MyTravel Airways flights. They sell airlines from Astraeus to Royal Air Maroc.

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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:31 am

I obviously missed out on the whole brochure cutting scene  Sad. Think Cosmos still run a page on Monarch in their Summer Sun brochure. I remember one year when the Airtours Florida brochure had a double page on "Fly our Jumbo Jet to Florida" the year they leased the Air New Zealand 742.

I think the reason the brochures have backed off promoting the airline is, especially on short haul, they use a wide variety of carriers. Ok, the vast majority will be 'in-house' but a good share are other carriers. It is nice though when brochures list the airline codes in the back. Thomson always have done, always felt cheated by Airtours/Direct Holidays they don't usually!!

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RE: UK Charter Airlines Premium Cabins

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:43 am

Hi,

Quoting Jmc757 (Reply 19):
Thomson always have done, always felt cheated by Airtours/Direct Holidays they don't usually!!

I have always found quiet the opposite with every company but MyTravel Group. I find they have the only brochures to get airline names correct!

For example you will find it Thomas Cook and Thomson brochures that it will say "Scandic Air", it will still say jmc AIR or "Babybmi"!

Also, MyTravel's brochures seem to be the only ones to list aircraft types corect. Thomas Cook's brochure still has them down as flying DC-10s!!!

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