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Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:50 am

Decision No. 129-A-2005
March 8, 2005
APPLICATION by Air Canada, pursuant to subsection 69(1) of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, for a licence to operate a scheduled international service, large aircraft between points in Canada and points in Lebanon.
File No. M4210/A74-4-69

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Air Canada (hereinafter the applicant) has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (hereinafter the Agency) for a licence to operate the service set out in the title. The application was received on November 8, 2004.

In order to obtain a licence, the applicant must, inter alia, establish to the satisfaction of the Agency that it holds a Canadian aviation document and that it has the prescribed liability insurance coverage in respect of the service to be provided under the licence, as set out in subparagraphs 69(1)(a)(ii) and (iii) of the Canada Transportation Act (hereinafter the CTA).

Pursuant to subsection 29(1) of the CTA, the Agency is required to make its decision no later than 120 days after the application is received unless the parties agree to an extension. In this case, the applicant has indicated that it will not request an extension to the deadline.

The Agency has considered the material filed to date in support of the application and notes that the applicant does not hold a valid Canadian aviation document in respect of the operation of scheduled international services to/from Lebanon. The Agency is therefore not satisfied that the applicant meets the requirement of subparagraph 69(1)(a)(ii) of the CTA. Accordingly, the application by Air Canada is hereby denied.


Source: http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/rulings-dec...decisions/2005/A/129-A-2005_e.html
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:54 am

What does that mean? They couldn't find an insurer, or they just didn't want to pay for it? I would imagine liability insurance for flights to the Middle East must be insanely expensive these days.
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:02 am

It means the Canadian government would not give AC the right to operate the service. AC was authorized in the summer of 2004 to launch service to BEY, but had the authority cancelled at literally the last minute, apparently for security concerns that remain nebulous to this day. Obviously, the government is not prepared at this point to reverse that decision. That's the aviation document in question. It is a recognition of bilateral authority issues by the federal government. I believe you could say that this was AC's attempt to prod the government into reviewing the file.
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:41 am

That decision doesn't really explain anything. It basically says you can't fly to Lebanon because you don't have a permit to fly to Lebanon. The real question is how does Air Canada get a permit to fly to Lebanon... is that done behind closed doors with no publications such as the CTA has?
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:46 am

The memo is self-contradictory. AC is applying for a license to operate but does not hold a valid aviation document. WTF?????????????

Our tax dollars are paying for this mindless drivel in Ottawa. Incredible.
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:59 am

It would appear that whatever the reasons, the government is not prepared to disclose them even to AC. Therefore, AC tries again for the authority. The application was received in November and only dismissed now, which is also intriguing, since it never takes that long to rule on these types of applications. The CTA appears to have taken its sweet time with this one, passing it around to other govt departments or even Cabinet to get guidance.
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:04 am

If Canada would stop meddling in other countries affairs these countries might be more accomodating! Here that Canada?!
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:04 am

Quoting Sebring (Reply 2):
AC the right to operate the service. AC was authorized in the summer of 2004 to launch service to BEY, but had the authority cancelled at literally the last minute, apparently for security concerns that remain nebulous to this day


That was in 2003  Wink
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:07 am

that of course was a joke

Canada is A-OK
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:39 am

well,
if all goes well in lebanon and syria gets out...expect AC to be blessing the runways of BEY right away....
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:17 pm

Syria will never leave Lebanon... wishful thinking  Sad
 
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RE: Air Canada Denied Service To Lebanon

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:35 am

The government confirmed yesterday that it was a matter national security.  crazy 

TC has mentioned that various agencies including the RCMP, CSIS and the Canadian Border Services Agency were all involved in the decision...
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