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ERAU Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:24 am

Well my dad got a new client today who is a former pilot at Alaska Airlines, and did a lot of interviewing for new pilots. He was saying that they really would value people with degrees from ERAU more than any other aviation college or academy. For anyone that went there, or who is currently going there what are you opinions on it?

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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:32 am

I went the business route and the flying group was a different world. If you're going for flying, go to Prescott. Less of a party reputation than at Daytona. Business go to either, Safety - Prescott, and Engineering/Computer Science/Avionics/A&P - Daytona.
 
selcalcheckok
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:43 am

ERAU is a great place to go to school. I went to the Daytona Campus, and feel very privileged to have attended. It is a great education and the weather is bearable all year round for flight training.

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Erau

Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:03 am

I have flown with quite a few Riddle grads and I can honestly say that if they did not tell me, I would have never known where they went to school. Thier skills and knowledge were comparable to most of the other people I fly with. I am sure it is a fine aviation school, but ask yourself how good a deal you are getting for your money? For the same price, you could attend many other top flight schools, do your flight training at a reputable FBO, and end up with your certificates, a degree which has some use in the real world, and possibly some good contacts for that first job. The dedicated, aviation only schools do have some networking advantages, but a resourceful person can overcome that. A quick comparison: a recent roommate who was a riddle grad is about 5 seniority numbers above me, takes home a similar paycheck, but has student loan payments which a 4 1/2 times that what I pay. He has to pay the bank. I can put a little extra in my IRA every month. Who comes out ahead in the end?
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:23 pm

I'm a freshman @ ERAU PRC and I love it!!!  praise 

Although lowrider has a point though, it is $$$.

But nothing beats having ERAU in your curriculum. I've heard from graduates that come back to campus that they were hired almost without any questions asked when they applied for a job, I've heard that a lot from Boeing engineers and regional pilots.

I haven't gone to the DAB campus, but I can tell you PRC has way better flying wx. At least we don't get 4 hurricanes in a row. Also, (and this goes for either campus) if you plan on getting drunk every weekend and partying around like stupid then you're better off going to your local FBO. All the people like that in this campus are waaaay behind their flight courses and don't know sh*t about flying. It is sad because a lot of retards pay $30K a year just to come here and get wasted.

The people that do well all have one thing in common, we have a passion for flight, and we take it seriously. Airplane freaks like me abound, and that's what makes ERAU an aviation heaven.  cheerful 
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:46 pm

These type of post about ERAU are almost as bad as the airbus vs boeing ones. Everyone is entitled to their oppinion, so I usually just mention how i pretty much footed my own bill for ERAU and feel that it was worth every penny. I felt that way when there, and now that I just grad back in Dec. got an awesome job doing airport consulting with well above average pay for an undergrad.

Really with ERAU it is all what you make of it, if you sit around and expect the school to do stuff for you, you will be one of those who complains that it sucks. But if you go, get involved and make the most of it, i guarantee you'd find it to be a great experience to start your aviation career.
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:47 pm

I go there for my MBA. Its a great school, but $$$$.
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:15 pm

Riddle is a great school and comes highly recommended. They have a great training program.
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erj
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:19 pm

What does it really matter how good the Riddle grads really are? What you pay for is the name on the diploma, that's what airlines like to see. The training is certainly top-notch, but there are others just as good.

The added bonus is the atmosphere of the school and the additional background education and options in case flying doesn't work out (too $$$, lose medical...).
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:35 pm

It's a grade-A trade/vocational school  Smile
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res
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:03 pm

Riddle is like Starbucks....you pay a shi*-load for what you can get elsewhere for much cheaper. You want a status symbol (riddle diploma)??...fine, but good flight schools dont only reside in daytona and prescott.

I turned riddle down because of this. Everyone that is just getting about to get out of high school thinks Riddle is the end all, be all of aviation school.

Im at ASU's Mesa Pilot Development (MPD) program and i can honestly say I respect this concentration much more than riddle...plus the fact they arent gouging me for money just because of their name. I'm guaranteed at least 2 flights a week plus more I can pretty much schedule on a whim. Ive heard bad stories of students fighting for flight blocks at riddle.

Plus, if you're a good boy/girl here at ASU East you will get regional jet training in full motion sims  Big grin

MPD also guarantees you an interview with Mesa airlines, and might I add that every now and then, Mesa students get into the right seat of CRJ's with just 400 hrs.
What does ERAU give you? Well, maybe a roll of Tums to deal with the heartburn you get from knowing you just spent 120,000 greens and no real guidance after your college.

You decide.

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INTENSS
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:06 pm



Quoting Res (Reply 10):
Plus, if you're a good boy/girl here at ASU East you will get regional jet training in full motion sims

You've obviously never been to a Riddle campus.

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 9):
It's a grade-A trade/vocational school

Another one who has no clue what the University offers. As an MBA grad from Riddle I would disagree.

-Rich
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:28 pm

Class of '94 PRC Campus. I'd say the Riddle name did land me my first interview. I say that because I was below an age requirement for the airline I was interviewing with but they allowed me to continue after checking out my educational credentials. The ERAU name does hold some weight and is well recognised around the world. Facilities are top notch and so are the instructors and programs. Go for Prescott, beautiful flying weather all year round and the outdoors is just a short drive away.
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:46 am

My Riddle degree and my enthusiasm for the airport management profession is what got me my first interview.

My knowledge and enthusiasm is what made that first interview successful and got me my first job.

My job experience and my enthusiasm is what has moved me onwards and upwards through 20 years in the industry.

Got my degree in Aviation Management from Riddle in Daytona in late 1982, and haven't looked back. All in all, though there are drawbacks, as there are everywhere, I'm better for the experience, and I'm glad I went there.

As others have said, Josh's rant aside, there are aviation educations elsewhere that are just fine. It's all about where you want to go, and which program works best for you.

Tom at MSY
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:21 am

I echo the many positive sentiments about ERAU. I'm a business guy too, with a bachelor's. I too was involved and had an absolutely awesome experience educationally, emotionally, and proffessionally. Yes, the money thing is true, but you pay top dollar to go to the tops schools. Are Brown, Harvard, Yale, and the likes cheap to go to? No (not that ERAU is in the same category as those, but in the aviation world it is). I've worked for an airline and an airport since graduation and have never not been offered a job that I applied for since. I've turned down 2 full time postions, one with CO (route planning in IAH) and WN (customer service agent in PVD), to pursue and eventually get better jobs. The common theme in all this: the ERAU name was immediately recognized at every interview and is on a day to day basis with the hundreds of pilots, airline agents, airport, and airline management people I have met over the past 9 years. Judging pilot skills (actually flying the aircraft and dealing with related issues) or any other specific aviation function based on an ERAU diploma isn't really fair. I would hope the pilot of any aircraft has the same (minimal?) skills regardless of where they received their training. It's about the commitment and recognition of going to what is arguably the "best" aviation school in the world.

Despite my appreciation for ERAU, I'd also like to say that ERAU is not alone in the top tier of aviation schools. Daniel Webster College in NH, FIT in MLB, and Bridgewater State in MA are just a few of the very good aviation schools in the U.S. that come to mind. They are just not AS recognized as ERAU. If you can afford it, I'd highly recommend ERAU to anyone serious about a carrer in aviation. Some ERAU grads joke about "paying for the name", but it sure seems to have helped me!
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:33 am

ERAU is a good school, but Horizon where you would have to start recruits more out of the University of North Dakota, which has surpassed ERAU as the top-notch school, more so because it offers a regular college along side your flying.

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res
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:26 am



Quoting INTENSS (Reply 11):
You've obviously never been to a Riddle campus.

OHH, Is that right????
I guess the semester I took up in prescott just doesnt count??

Get your facts straight before saying things like that.
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Corbin
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:30 am

I read this on a web site...

"Going to Embry Riddle Aeronautical University is like having unprotected sex. It feels good to get in, but then you're sorry you came." rotfl 
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res
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:33 am

That sounds about right  hyper 
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Boeing7E7
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:17 am

Hey Res...

Take a chill pill. There are many of us who made it through Riddle doing things other than flying that got an education you simply cannot get anywhere else that is so aviation intensive. You want to be prepared for the aviation business side of the house, you can't beat Riddle. I ran circles around people right out of college when I worked in the Airport Management side of the house, due to the advantage I had of an Aviation based education. It's all about a working foundation. Good luck with the pilot development program, just about anyone can buy themsleves a right seat these days through Riddle, Comair, Flight Safety or ASU so I'm not sure how important it is where you go.
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:26 am

I just graduated in December and now I am employed with Boeing. I think it was a great choice to go to Riddle...it Opened the door for me to get into a great job with great pay. I do have to say this though...

I recommend going to a local school for your first 2 years. The general education courses are all the same and you can pay less than half price when you compare Riddle to your local community college. Also, when you get to Riddle, get a degree in something other than flight. I would recommend ATC or business. Fly off campus. The flight program there, although awesome, costs way to much. The Riddle name on the degree is what your after, an airline will not know where you got your ratings from (everyone's look the same).

All in all, minus the whole no girls at Riddle thing (I think it might be up to 20%!) it was an awesome school with an awesome education. I am glad I didn't go there for my first 2 years of college, and just spent the last half of my education there. The name on the degree is worth it because EVERYONE in industry knows who Riddle is. It opens up doors and will help you get a job.

Just my $0.02

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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:29 am



Quoting Coewr (Reply 20):
I recommend going to a local school for your first 2 years. The general education courses are all the same and you can pay less than half price when you compare Riddle to your local community college.

This is an excellent option I wish I had taken right out of High School. At the time it was about $100 a semester at California Community Colleges. You live and learn.
 
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:49 am

Coewr,

That's exactly what I did:

Got my Associate in Science degree in Air Transportation from Mount San Antonio College (Mt. SAC to the locals) in Walnut, CA.

The entire 2-year degree transferred in whole to Embry-Riddle. I knocked out the last 2 years course work in 18 months, and earned my Bachelor of Science degree in Aviation Administration.

Tom at MSY
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RE: Erau Opinions?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:15 pm

Quoting Res (Reply 16):
OHH, Is that right????
I guess the semester I took up in prescott just doesnt count??

Get your facts straight before saying things like that.

In your post you were alluding to the fact that you could get full motion sim time at ASU as opposed to Riddle. The Daytona campus has multiple level D sims...

-Rich

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