himmat01
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Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:12 am

Has AIX started accepting bookings? I tried checking on amadeus but was not able to find any AIX flights loaded. It's website, www.airindiaexpress.in is still under construction. If it intends to start flying in April 2005, they should have loaded their schedule into the CRS and have had a fully functional net booking facility on its website by now.

Has it started booking through travel agents or through AI offices? Really curious to know more...... please help....

thanks in advance,

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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:32 am



Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
If it intends to start flying in April 2005, they should have loaded their schedule into the CRS and have had a fully functional net booking facility on its website by now.

Yes, they SHOULD have done this.  confused 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:43 pm

I thought Low Cost and CRS dont mix???
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:33 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
It's website, www.airindiaexpress.in is still under construction.

Yeah, I followrd this up, too.. it is really annoying.. at least, they managed to register the domain before one of my fellow Punjabi Puters would have done it and offered it for sale.. I have no idea how one can promote a product that badly

Quoting TKMCE (Reply 2):
I thought Low Cost and CRS dont mix???

I would not see AIX as a typical LCC. Though I am waiting for someone to assess them within the present landscape of international careers.. probably they do not know themselves
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:07 pm

Why AIX wont work according to a very informed person in the travel trade in Kerala (not myself) with whom I had a talk recently.

1 AIX is understimating the potential of its competitors to react. Airlines like QR and UL have deep pockets, so they will drop fares accordingly . Both are no strangers to these games esp in the Kerala Middle East market. And for the latter, capacity restrictions are also not a big issue as they come under SAARC open skies and already have a presence in Calicut in addition to COK and TRV.

2 Air India's inefficiency will rub off to some extent to AIX as well. And thus they will not be able to drop fares that dramatically, (aka Southwest/Ryan Air etc). For a drop of 800 -100 Rs (25 USD), the chap coming home after two or three years might as well decide that he can afford that extra 1 grand to booze to his hearts content as well as eat food which is not exactly trash in a full service carrier. Plus the Macho image - normally for every such person who arrives home after every two/three years, the average no of meeters and greeters will be 10 to 15. Now he doesnt want to ruin his image at the airport itself by flying AIX, will he? And also not to forget how he is going to bring all that baggage which has been entrusted to half the district by all the friends of relatives of all his acquaintances???

3 Unlike an Air Deccan trip, where somebody who flies Air Deccan MAA BLR with them saves 1000 grand once every two weeks if he is a regular flier, our friend, the NRK (Non resident keralite),saves that Rs 2000 once in every two years or more. So the net savings is not anything to talk about when you look at it on a quantum basis per day!


Now this philospohy is for the NRKs. But may be Air India will have more success with the NRTs (Non resident Tamilians) and NRMs (Non Resident Mumbaikars!), AIX's other key planned markets .

Any comments???


NB : No offense intended to any one in this post . Trying to put the point accross in a non technical way!
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:27 pm

Have they taken delivery of their aircraft in India as yet? If they have the aircraft, but don't have a booking system in place; now that will probably be a first! Or possibly existing AI bookings on the Kerala-Gulf sectors (as an example) will be operated by AIX (What's their 2 letter code?) to start off with?
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:20 pm

maybe they will start to fill thier planes thru agent sold packages, or with the overflow from regular AI destinations in the middle east, and bother with direct bookings later?
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:42 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 5):
Have they taken delivery of their aircraft in India as yet

I seen the AI Express B738 in the AI Mx hangar at Old Airport Mumbai.It was visable from the Domestic terminal side.Im sure it looked like the AIeB738s.I'll confirm on my Day Shift on Thursday.
But its def here.
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:14 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
seen the AI Express B738 in the AI Mx hangar at Old Airport Mumbai.I

Great - nothing like knowing the aircraft is actually in, and hence service is likely to be launched (though without a booking engine, it may just be assorted babus and AI family). Now waiting to hear about 9W/S2 aircraft arriving in India!
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:06 am

Just checked the AIX website, www.airindiaexpress.in again. It's functional and will be launching reservations soon. Looks better than the AI website. AIX is offering 50% discounts for early bookings.

cheers!!!

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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:11 am

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 9):
It's functional and will be launching reservations soon

I don't know if it's functional, all I get is the home page with a shot of a 747 in the top banner, and text that says "Coming soon". Nothing else on that page!

I wonder why the shot of the 747 in the banner, maybe it just looks better than the profile of a 737?
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:06 am

The webpage is fully functional now and...

It is extremely sexy! Super job, same should happen for the AI page soon, too, hopefully!
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:15 am

Amazing prices! The page is really great... probably the first time sth under GOI auspices works (page maintenance is outsourced Big grin ) - nice to see a page by Indian IT experts that really looks as to be done by experts!


Quick access: www.airindiaexpress.in
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:43 am

Good to see its functional at last. I find it better than any other airline website in India. The fares are really great.

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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:00 am

Just done about 10 random searches, after consulting its timetable. On about 9 occasions it came up with 'No availability found.' How frustrating.
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:49 pm

Wonderful website visually may be !!!- but I dont know which whiz Kid in Air India Express approved this!! Whoever it is, must be dumb!!!

Why ?? - The home page is too similar to that of Air Deccan

The website has been developed by the same guys who developed Air Deccan website (www.airdeccan.net)- "InterGlobe Technologies" . Some of the text in the Air Deccan home pages is duplicated as it is !!!!- nothing wrong I suppose - but I thought taking 5 minutes extra to come up with something different was not too difficult - or does English Language have such a shortage of synonyms!!!

Does cost cutting for an LCC have to go to these lengths!!!!


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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:50 am

Quoting TKMCE (Reply 15):
Why ?? - The home page is too similar to that of Air Deccan

Just checked out the Air Deccan website. IX website is very similar to DN's. I guess some GOI babu might have approved it without bothering to check out the other websites designed by InterGlobe Technologies.

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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:37 pm

AIX is supposed to have approached DN for developing their reservation system on the lines of DN. I read about this in some news article sometime ago. That's probably why AIX's website is similar to DN's.

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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:18 pm

Their fare to AbuDhabi is simply amazing----Rs 2750[one way] whereas EK and others are around the 12-13,000 mark.[Round trip]
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:56 pm

They seem real cheap Costwise  Smile
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:38 pm

Kochi-Trivandrum = 721 one-way including tax.  Big grin

[Edited 2005-03-20 10:46:01]
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:49 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 20):
Kochi-Trivandrum = 721 one-way including tax.

Time for AI express to compete on the liberal European Market against FR and kick their butt bigtime, my friend  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:50 pm

Nah, not when labour and all other costs are probably less than 1/4 the cost of those in Europe.
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:12 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 22):
Nah, not when labour and all other costs are probably less than 1/4 the cost of those in Europe.

It is a shame that all of a sudden you are against competition  bigthumbsup  - one country has resource A abundant, others resoruce B...
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:15 pm

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 23):
It is a shame that all of a sudden you are against competition

Eh? I am all for competition! Anyway, good cheap prices in India - including for foreigners (although there will invariably be a little note to the effect that the stated price is only available to Indian residents  Silly )!

[Edited 2005-03-20 11:22:12]
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:33 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 24):
Eh? I am all for competition! Anyway, good cheap prices in India - including for foreigners (although there will invariably be a little note to the effect that the stated price is only available to Indian residents )!

Not for Air Deccan
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:43 pm

Who is the cheapest after Air Deccan.
Anyone with Statistics on how well the Airlines of India fared the last qtr.
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:15 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 26):
Who is the cheapest after Air Deccan

Air Deccan is cheap if you book days (or months ahead).

HOWEVER, in some (not all routes), you may be surprised to learn that provided you are a bloke who would like to stick to schedules, you may get a fare almost as cheap as Air Deccan even in the last minute.

An example

Today (24 MAR) Air Deccan website gives me a fare of Rs 3021 (incl of taxes) for their flight tommorrow (25th March) on the BOM BLR sector with a 1130
DEP ex BOM..


However for the same day, Jet Airways has a flight avaiable at Rs 3271 (incl of taxes) leaving at 1400 hrs while for their 1020 and 1550 depatures the fare is Rs 3771. Only for the pak morning and evening departures are the normal full fares of Rs 5821 applicable. Of course these low fares may not be available always but then that is yield management!

Similary for DEL HYD, the Air Deccan fare for 25th is Rs 4021 incl of taxes with a 1830 departure.

Even with a peak hour dep of 1725, Jet offers the same flight for Rs 4771.

Indian Airlines and Sahara also offers similar fares on many routes.

So if you are in a hurry to get a last minute flight, do check the full service carriers before looking at Air Deccan. For sligfhtly more you can fly them with cancellation terms comparable to Air Deccan.
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:32 pm

Did anybody click on the special services button? You can get a baby cot and a wheelchair but have to pay money for them. (Rs. 700 odd and Rs 1300 odd respectively). It seems like AI Express learnt something from Ryanair after all.

Also the fare 2750 is not 'real'. They have a fuel surcharge on it as well as airport taxes. The total comes to over 3500... But I'm glad that AI Express is now thinking about the low fare market.

Does anybody know if the flights will include free food or will it be available for purchase?

Thanks.

PG
 
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:33 pm

Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 28):
Does anybody know if the flights will include free food or will it be available for purchase?

Air India Express will provide pre-prepared boxed meals free of charge.
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RE: Air India Express-bookings?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:47 pm

Quoting TKMCE (Reply 27):
So if you are in a hurry to get a last minute flight, do check the full service carriers before looking at Air Deccan. For sligfhtly more you can fly them with cancellation terms comparable to Air Deccan.

Good Advice.

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 29):
Air India Express will provide pre-prepared boxed meals free of charge.

Containing what  Smile

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