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Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:19 am

Who were Leisure Airways?


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I was under the impression it was Air Uk Leisure but the logo on the planes just say Leisure! What fleet did they have, where did they fly to and from? What happened to them?

I know they did some long haul to SFB and i did see their planes in NCL now and again.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:30 am

They used to be associated with Unijet, before being amalgamated into the AMM/FCA fleet, but Im not sure if they were owned by them. Thier fleet included B767 and A320 (i think). I always saw Air Uk, but never saw Leisure Airways at NCL unfortunately.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:35 am

i did work experience with Air Uk at NCL when I was at school. It was cool. Im sure I saw a plane at NCL which had Air Uk Leisure on it?? Maybe im mistaken. What did happen to Air Uk by the way? They used to fly the Bae146 from NCL. I just popped up to the airport earlier and had a wander into the 'viewing area'. All I could see was a BA A320.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:41 am

Did First Choice absorb them? isn't that where the 76's come from or am I way off?  Smile

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:45 am

I flew once on an Air UK Leisure 737-400, so they must have had 737s at one point.
 
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:49 am

Hello,

Leisure International Airways formed in 1987 and where part of the AirUK group before 1997, in 1997 they became the in-house operator of flights on belalf of the Tour-Operator Unijet.

They were a subsidiary of Unijet from 1997.

Unijet was to become part of First Choice in 1998/9 and so, the Leisure international fleet was passed over to air2000 (First Choice Airways).





They had A330's on order.

They operated a fleet of: A320's A321's and Boeing 767's

G-UNIF--A321--- NOW OPERATING FCA / KFCA), USA - Montana">FCA-- G-OOAE
G-UNID/UKLO--A321---NOW OPERATING FCA / KFCA), USA - Montana">FCA-- G-OOAF
G-UNIE--A321---NOW OPERATING FCA / KFCA), USA - Montana">FCA-- G-OOAH

G-UKLH--B767---NOW OPERATING FCA / KFCA), USA - Montana">FCA-- G-OOAN
G-UKLI--B767--- WAS OPERATING FCA / KFCA), USA - Montana">FCA AS-- G-OOAO

It's ashame they went, they were apparently a good Airline!

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:51 am

yeah they used to have 737-400's at NCL. So they were part of Air Uk then? Im sure some of their planes were branded Air Uk Leisure as opposed to just 'Leisure'.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:53 am

A330's on order?? I wonder why Air 2000/First Choice did not accept those planes. They are one of the only UK Charters not using the 330 for Long Haul.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:55 am

The planes were branded AirUk Leisure pre 1997.

In 1997 AirUK Leisure became a Wholly owned subsidiary for Unijet, so their relationship with AirUK ended, and the Airline began flying Charters as just Leisure for the company which owned them, Unijet.

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:58 am

I will try and find out about those A330s. Probably cancelled because First Choice would not of needed them because of the 767's they received after buying Unijet and so Leisure International Airways.

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:00 am

they should have ditched the 767's and gone for the A330. Much better plane!!
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:01 am

They did in fact order a substantial amount of A330's more than 4 i believe. However when First Choice took over ops, the order was cancelled in favour of keeping the B767 in the fleet.

I could be wrong.
 
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:10 am

Hello Everyone,

I've found some information on those Leisure international A330's

Here's an article from the time. (1997). The main bits are highlighted below.

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=40257

"A $230 million order for two A330-200 wide-body aircraft has been placed with Airbus Industrie by travel group Unijet Group PLC on behalf of its Leisure International Airways subsidiary."

"When the A330s are delivered in the first quarter of 2000, Leisure International will operate an all-Airbus fleet."

"The aircraft will replace two Boeing 767-300ERs, acquired new in 1993, on transatlantic services to the USA and the Caribbean which Leisure International operates on behalf of Unijet and other tour operators."

"Seating configuration for the aircraft has still to be finalised but in a one-class layout the A330-200 is capable of seating up to 380 passengers at a 30-inch seat-pitch compared with 327 for the 767."

"By ordering the A330 Leisure International becomes the first UK airline to choose Airbus exclusively for its long and short-haul fleet requirements."

Just shows what could of been!

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:25 am

And just to finish the story off nicely, the two A330s (well, delivery slots) that had been ordered for Leisure International ended up as F-HBIL of Corsair and EI-EWR of Aer Lingus:


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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:29 am

ah the rise and fall of Leisure/Air Uk Leisure captured in less than 10 posts.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:21 am

There was a Leisure Air here in the states for a short period of time. Their HQ was somewhere near Tysons Corner, Virginia. Hap Perretti was in charge and he pretty much ran that one into the ground like he did at Presedential. Anybody else have some info?

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 am

Hi,

It is only the second UK airline order to be announced for this long-range, twin-engined model from the European aircraft maker in which British Aerospace is a major partner.

I prosume that Airtours where the first?

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RE: Leisure Airways

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:50 am

I work for AIRBUS training center in Miami in 1997 and I was Flight Instructor of 2 LEISURE AIR crews based in STANTED.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:29 am

Hello,

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 16):
I prosume that Airtours where the first?


Yes, Airtours was the first, as JMC received theirs in 2001, and they hadn't even formed in 1997.

One of Airtours's first A330's G-MOJO (G-OMYT) was registered on 08/11/99

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:26 am

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 18):
Yes, Airtours was the first, as JMC received theirs in 2001, and they hadn't even formed in 1997.

Didnt MON receive their A330s before Airtours?
 
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:29 am

Monarch's G-SMAN was delivered on 26/03/1999, so Monarch get the title of first British A330 operator. G-EOMA was delivered a month later on 26/04/1999, so Monarch had a 2 aircraft head start on Airtours!
 
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:18 am

Hello, must of forgot about Monarch Airlines. Sorry for my mistake.

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:33 am

I flew on AirUK Leisure 763 to MCO many moons ago, I think it was 1996.

I remember the flight very well because on our return journey home a lady in the front Y cabin had a heart attack and we landed in EWR and I can remember the emergency vehicles following us around the airport and then an ambulance pulling up along side and she was taken away. The captain came on and said because the crew would run out of their hours before we would arrive back at LGW we would have to overnight in New York and they were going to try to find us hotels. 3 hours later captain comes back on tells us that they can't find any hotel rooms available  liar  , I find it hard to believe they couldn't find any hotel rooms in a huge city full of hotels ! Me thinks someone was saving alot of money.

So we were told that they where trying to arrange for us to sleep in the airport, another 2 hours passes and were told that the airport won't allow us to sleep in the departure lounge as there's not enough security. El Capitain decides to fly back to MCO and change crews there instead. So 2 and a half hours later were back in MCO, waited another 3 hours and the airport workers had to open up Burger King at 3am for passenger to get something to eat of anything to eat and drink. I think after that whole ordeal we arrived at LGW some 26 hours after our original departure.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:48 am

FLVILLA, that sounds terrible. Some of the stories involving Charter Airlines and Long delays are unbelievable!  Sad

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:10 am

But sadly very true! Remeber that Excalibur DC10 they tried to fly to and from Florida Big grin
 
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:20 am

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:20 am

As has been mentioned, Air UK Leisure commenced ops in 1987 as a charter offshoot of the scheduled service airline, Air UK. The first year of ops saw two leased 732's used (painted in the full UKL livery).

1988 saw the arrival of the first of the 734's, which also carried the titles 'Air UK Leisure' on the aircraft. The airline had to subcontract many of its services during the early part of 1989 due to problems with the uprated CFM56 powerplants which had contributed the the BD 734 crash at Kegworth.

1993 saw the pair of 763's arrive, which were primarily used on services to Florida and the Carribean but were also used on a handful of European charters from MAN and LGW too. The livery on the 763's differed slightly from the rest of the fleet as they only carried the name "Leisure" (Air UK part being dropped) but both Leisure and Air UK Leisure were as I understand one and the same company.[Edited 2005-03-11 23:25:36]

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 26):
The livery on the 763's differed slightly from the rest of the fleet as they only carried the name "Leisure" (Air UK part being dropped) but both Leisure and Air UK Leisure were as I understand one and the same company

Hello, Capital146.

I'm not being a big-head here, but after 1997 wasn't the Leisure part of the company of AirUK brought by the tour operator Unijet to operate its flights as its own Charter Airline? Wasn't AirUK then left as just AirUK?

From what I've seen, after 1997, Leisure AirUK split to become AirUk and Leisure International Airways which was to be owned by Unijet.

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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:29 pm

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 27):
I'm not being a big-head here, but after 1997 wasn't the Leisure part of the company of AirUK brought by the tour operator Unijet to operate its flights as its own Charter Airline? Wasn't AirUK then left as just AirUK?

From what I've seen, after 1997, Leisure AirUK split to become AirUk and Leisure International Airways which was to be owned by Unijet.

Hi Ryan,

I'll take your word for it as to the time Unijet took control of the operations as I am not sure of this myself, but the thing I was trying to get across was that the long-haul 763's with 'Leisure' titles operated alongside short-medium haul 734's with 'Air UK Leisure' titles for a number of years prior to 1997 even though to the best of my knowledge they were the same company.
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:52 pm

Theres B767's were actually good in quality interior wise, not a bad ontime record either.
 
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RE: Leisure Airways

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:56 pm

And to confuse y'all even more, any of you remember the airline All Leisure that operated A320s?  Wink
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Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:21 am

Hello,

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 30):
And to confuse y'all even more, any of you remember the airline All Leisure that operated A320s?



Yes I remember that the Leisure Airways operated by Unijet had A320's.


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Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:30 am

SignalOne, nope not them, I said the airline "All Leisure" Cool


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