richcandy
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Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:20 am

Hi

What is Air Canada Club Class. Is this a new business class or a premium economy?

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JGPH1A
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:22 am

It is a Premium Economy product (kind of) - I believe its on routes where AC can't offer the full Business First product. Selling class is S.
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:23 am

Sounds like something like BA's World Traveller Plus.
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FLYACYYZ
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:27 am

This is something that has just come out within the last week. It is effectively the same service that used to be known as Super Comfort, on seasonal flights to MAN/GLA/SNN/DUB/ZRH/AMS and now year round to FCO.

My guess is it's simply a marketing name change as there would be broader industry awareness of the name Club versus Super Comfort, which basically indicates same level of Y/C service with a "big seat".

Strangely within AC's RESIII inventory it is reflected as "J", but in CRS booking systems it is booked as "S".

Don't know whether with the name change there will be any added amenities. As in years past it's a domestic 767-200 (36J/162Y) with the same level of service throughout, with the front cabin being allotted to full fare, and top tier frequent fliers.
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:35 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 3):
Strangely within AC's RESIII inventory it is reflected as "J", but in CRS booking systems it is booked as "S".

It's to do with ticketing and itinerary - in GDS's, Air Canada's 'J' Selling class is flagged a Business Class on e-ticket receipts and itinerarys. As it isn't actually the full AC Business offering, they need to call it something else, hence the selling class S. Same for AC's website - this is run through Amadeus, and needs Club to be some other class than J to reflect the differentiation between Club and Business first.
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:50 am

Another oddity with booking classes and codes. AC extensively and reciprocally code shares with UA. After all of these years, if booking a flight domestically through UA which is operated by AC in the premium cabin, UA books it as F/C, while AC only offers J/C. I have never known of a situation where UA advises the customer of this fact.

Essentially, it is the same type of service, but UA should brief the customer.
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:53 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
As it isn't actually the full AC Business offering, they need to call it something else, hence the selling class S. Same for AC's website - this is run through Amadeus, and needs Club to be some other class than J to reflect the differentiation between Club and Business first.

It's been known as Super Comfort Class for years, which has little or no marketing/consumer awareness. Believe that's the reason for the name change. It is still just a big seat option--no added amenities such as BA's WTP.
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Al
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:37 am

It's more of a J- than a Y+ this year.
Converting from Supercomfort to Club Class aligns the product more with what they are offering this year compared to years past.

AC Club will be offered mainly on summer peak services where AC doesn't have the availability of normal long haul types with it's usual J cabin. Instead they are using some domestically configured 767's and are leasing in other 767's from carriers like EVA that provide a 2x2x2 J cabin rather than the AC configured 1x2x2 or 2x2x1 longhaul J cabin.

Amenities will include things like lounge access, priority check-in/baggage, superior on board service (better meals etc) but with the drawback of far inferior seating (compared with normal J). This allows AC to offer some sort of "above Y" cabin but not tarnish the normal long haul J product. It's probably what is needed at this time of year due to the summer vacations and replacement of a lot of the corporate market with the leisure brigade.
Routes that Club will be found on look like 2 of 3 daily YVR-LHR, 1 of 2 daily on YYC-LHR, YYZ-CDG & YUL-CDG, 1 of 2 daily YVR-KIX & YVR-ICN.
Daily flights that Club will be offered seem to be YYZ-FCO, YVR-NGO, YYZ-LIM. Then there is the annual onslaught for Euro seasonal routes like MAN GLA DUB SNN AMS ZRH.

There's a couple of good blurbs about Club on the AC website under traveller services, then onboard comfort.
 
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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:11 am

Al,

Thanks for the info. Do you know whether they will allow elites/super elites on it (as they used to), or only people who pay more?

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RE: Air Canada Club Class?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:32 am

Priority of seating will be:

*Full Y or Y-based excursion fares (guaranteed seating)
*Applicable upgrade certificates
*Involuntary upgrades for oversold Y cabins to Super Elite/Star Alliance
Gold/Elite..etc.
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