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First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:22 am

MX F-OHML, will be in the database shortly!

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:55 am

Cool! Can't wait to see it...
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:00 am

There's a pic here:
http://www.reforma.com/negocios/articulo/504382/

they didn't quite go for the extra mile with that now, did they?

Rgds..

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:06 am

Am001,

That site is password protected. I think people opened this thread to actually see the picture, not an announcement that it will be in the database soon.

Assuming that you have uploaded the picture yourself can you link the preview at all?
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:23 am

Yes, lets see a preview. Can't wait to see it.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:38 am

I've heard rumors that its coming to LAX tonight?

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:48 am

Cant wait to see it. However, this thread is a tease....
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:00 am

"O sea, se quemaron el coco para inventarse eso..."

Como?
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:25 am

I just saw the Reforma's picture. Is it a joke or something? Maybe someone wanted to spend all their marketing budget before MX is sold.

I really hope it's just that it doesn't look good on that picture but for me it's been a major disapointment, the non-event of the year.  Angry

Maybe MX should name their next airplane "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:34 am

Well I stumbled upon a composite pic on another forum, I was foaming at the mouth at the prospect of seeing how the new image would look so i'll post this so you can get an idea, I haven't seen the real thing myself so I dunno much about it's accuracy, perhaps it's like this (minus the grey belly of course).

In any case... I feel some projectile vomit brewing in my stomach. Big grin

http://www.fsmex.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=3301
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:41 am

Did Aviasca buy Mexicana?
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:45 am

I'm starting to seriously think that these advertising agencies (or whatever they are called) who are designing the "new" liveries (TP is an additional example) are laughing their way to the bank. What any airline brass should do is checkout the Modified Airliner Photos Database at http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/ and save themselves some money (and embarrassment)!

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:45 am

Quoting SR117 (Reply 9):
o I dunno much about it's accuracy,

Well, have I got bad news for you..!!!

Judging by the picture on the Reforma, the guy who did the composite you linked to got it right (the Reforma only shows the rear of the aircraft but it's similar to the composite).

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:01 am

Dear lord, so it's just not a scary campfire story !  shhh 

Oh well, let's not be shallow and remember that it's the inside that counts.  Wink
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:17 am

Well, if that's the new design, I kinda like. Tends to look more business oriented a la Continental. Not bad.
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:27 am

First pictures are on Aviation Photography of Mexico's website.
www.apm-group.com.mx
You'll have to access the site in Spanish though.

I'm sorry I have not enough time to work on the English page this days...

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:34 am

WTF??????

All they did is change the tail, and even then only added a stupid cropped logo. Everyone's doing that now, and honestly, MX's old tail was better.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:35 am

>You'll have to access the site in Spanish though.<

Juan Carlos,

If I enter the spanish language version of your site, the menu on the left doesn't come up, it's only on the english version. What part of the site is the photo in?
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:44 am

That's it? A minor tail alteration and they call it new colors? It doesn't look bad but... KLM's livery change was more drastic.
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:46 am

Cant find any pics...... how about a link??
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:49 am

1. This is not a new C/S but only a minor change on the tail colors

2. It is looking worse than before!

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:50 am

Just go to "Noticias", then "Noticias" another time and you will find them!!
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:51 am

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 17):
Juan Carlos,

If I enter the spanish language version of your site, the menu on the left doesn't come up, it's only on the english version. What part of the site is the photo in?

Do you have JAVA properly installed? It has a menu on the top of the page, very similar to the one on A.net

Anyways here is the direct link for those of you who cant find them.

http://www.apm-group.com.mx/Inicio.htm

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:52 am

http://www.apm-group.com.mx/Inicio.htm

Hey, where it is the old CMA logo that all planes had in the nose section? and what about the city names? will be all removed? I don't like that.

Regards

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:05 am

It's not bad but it's not great either. However, I'll take it over that abomination TAP introduced recently...

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:22 am

NEW

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:30 am

What is with airlines that they are insisting in enlarging the logos till they don't fit anymore in the tail?

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:37 am

 cry 

The only thing I can think of is that they were definitely looking at how much  dollarsign avings they could have by simplifying their image and getting rid of the Mexican green patterns.

Maybe the new future owners won't like it, and decide to come up with something better.  pray  Even TAP's new livery is much better (in my opinion) than this.

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:26 pm

I'm not feeling it... I don't like the black stuff on the aircraft.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:29 pm

The only explanation I could find to the new color scheme is that it will be cheaper to paint and repaint when needed...Now the plane looks like it belongs to a cheap airline  Sad

At least I have A.net to remember those great old color schemes from the past, including the gold ones.

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:41 pm

NOOOOO!!!  hissyfit  What did they do?!?! Thats ugly. Where is the blue and green that everyone was talking about?

That new livery is  vomit  I like the green one better.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:01 pm

I don't like it. There is no more color anymore! At least with the older livery there was that nice green color on the tail.
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:01 pm

That new Mexicana tail is F***** ugly. I like the old one much better, but I think its a cost cutting thing. what a shame
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:05 pm

They went from cheap to cheaper. MX is a great airline and it amazes me their disregard for its image.

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:06 pm

To my Mexican friends. They might screw up Mexicana, but DO NOT let them screw up Aeromexico's livery, it is one of the best going right now.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:10 pm

looks a lot like Continental

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:12 pm

Quoting Arcano (Reply 26):

Wow, that's a great observation. I hadn't noticed that but you're absolutely correct. TAP, UA, NW, and now Mexicana...though I have to say, I like them all very much except for the one this thread is dedicated to.

I'd love to see an anthology of liveries through time for a bunch of the older carriers...
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:39 pm

Quoting Luis777 (Reply 23):
Hey, where it is the old CMA logo that all planes had in the nose section? and what about the city names? will be all removed? I don't like that.

CMA logo on the front will be removed, name on planes will also be gone. Better take pictures of all the fleet as much as possible in the old colors! Retro Jet's will also be gone this year. Expect new logo jet's for the 85 anniv next year!

Today I spoke with Mexicana's CEO (Emilio Romano) a very friendly person BTW and he told me about certain projects in mind. Hopefully all become a reality!

As for the fleet A321's have been canceled for now and all this year MX will be getting extra A320s. B757 fleet will be reduce to 5 this year and many new other things!

Certainly they will save a lot with this new c/s! And certainly I don't see this c/s staying 9 years as the previous one. The airline didn't fill the logo in white because of AM similar c/s! I want to see AM's face now! Will they change it also?

Tail tone is kind of a darky blue and it kind of reminds of this previous scheme:

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Certainly it will look a lot much better out there! Can't wait to see the 57's wearing the new c/s!

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:14 pm

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 37):
I want to see AM's face now! Will they change it also?

Well, they could certainly ruin their c/s too, but let's not give them any ideas.  Wink
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:18 pm

Um, it just looks like the green was replaced by purple. How about some actual color?
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:33 pm

I did'nt Like the new colors. i liked the old tail.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:37 pm

Looks great the tail and engines, but not very good the gray on the fuselage, just a matter of taste, but being more critic, it could be better  Sad

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:39 pm

That is pathetic. The previous multi colour tail livery is much nicer. This new livery is very plain.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:56 pm

OMG please tell me I had a bad dream during my nap... What is that? A mix of the old style with the new "low-cost" tail? One of my favorite airlines looks like s**** now, I'm sad!!! I'd have no problem with a plane painted like the one with the blue tail (N447MX I think) just with the engines also painted in blue, and of course the logo all in white... would look "less cheap"... As much as I liked the new AV livery, I totally hate the new MX one, sorry =(
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:10 pm

Can't help it but i think this is horrible, theire old colours were much better....
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:18 pm

This was and still is the best scheme Mexican has had:


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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:42 pm

This new scheme is absolutely disappointing. You'd think they'd set themselves apart, but they've decided to be just like everyone else's schemes out there.

Why don't they just paint 'Von Dutch' on the side of their planes?!?!?

I'd have to say that the 'Golden Aztec/Azteca de Oro' scheme of the 1970's and 80's was my favorite. Very Mexican. And then, the various colorful tail designs before they chose the standard green tails. These colorful tails showcased the many colors of Mexico and it's people.

At this point, Aeromexico's latest scheme seems more interesting.

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:15 pm

How is it called "a new livery"?

I must say that LAN and Avianca's new liveries are not very amazing, but at least they made an effort. This one sucks(with all the due respect to Mexicana fans).

Does anybody know which was the real reason behind this corporate identity change?
Just like Aerolíneas Argentinas, they should've kept their former liveries, as they reflected more their own national identity.
 
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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:20 pm

Quoting Lan_Fanatic (Reply 47):

Does anybody know which was the real reason behind this corporate identity change?

I suppose to save money $$$...

I also like the old gold colors from the 80s. As the song says: "Those were the days my friend..."  Sad

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RE: First Mexicana A320 Pictures With New C/S

Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:23 pm

Quoting Lan_Fanatic (Reply 47):
Does anybody know which was the real reason behind this corporate identity change?

Saving costs and time! They also paid rights for the usage of the image every month! (And it was nothing cheap)!

Finally, it is important to take into consideration fuel! In the 80s and 90s oil price average 35USD and now, only 10 years later we are having new oil record prices of 55USD per barrel!

This is an industry and business. You either renew and save or die!

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