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757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:44 am

Since Continental was the first to start retrofitting their aircraft with the new feature, I was wondering if there were any other airlines expressing interest in doing the same? American and Delta both have huge fleets of 757's and could benefit from the savings and performance associated with them. Any thoughts?

PS: I did a search and could not find an answer to my question.
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MD-90
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:49 am

If it works for the 757 planform, why not the 767?
 
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:51 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
why not the 767?

Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:58 am

Quoting Funflyer (Reply 2):
Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?

The 787 isn't coming out for a while, though, and the 767's won't be phased out immediately. If there is enough interest in 767 winglets, I'm sure they will look into them sometime in the future.

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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:51 pm

757 & 767 will not be disappearing from the skies anytime soon. Airlines and manufacturers will look into making existing machines more efficient with 'wingleting' a much easier task than say re-engining.

CO happens to use its 757 on the longest sectors, thus it took to launch the 757-winglet program. Air Canada is a carrier that also stretches the 767 to the limits and thus wants to squeeze a little more out of the airframe.

The 767 winglet, depending on the cost/efficiency improvement factors, will get attention from 767 operators throughout the world, particularly US carriers since they have the most numerous fleet numbers and most cannot undertake in fleet replacement investments.
 
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:32 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
If it works for the 757 planform, why not the 767?

Well, they do have different wings. Still, APB has a winglet program for the 767 but have not found takers yet. AC is a likely candidate, though they want Boeing or Airbus to pay for the winglets.

Quoting Funflyer (Reply 2):
Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?

With nearly 1000 built and very few retired (many going to second tier users) and some very young examples out there, the 767 is not going anywhere for a while. The 787, which wont come for more than 2 years now, will take its place at the head of that size of aircraft, but the 767 will still be of use to many operators, particularly if winglets make it even more efficient
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:24 am

It doesn`t look so nice in my opinion.
In how many years the winglets will over their costs?
 
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:57 am

I'm going to bet that the next serious interest for winglets on the 757 will be freighter carriers. The winglets do add capacity increase capabilites.
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:36 pm

Air Canada has mentioned it wants to install winglets on it's 767s. I'll bet though many carriers will refit their 757s with them if it is cost effective for them to do it. Hopefully many 767s as well.
 
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RE: 757 Winglets = New Trend?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:17 am

If the price of oil keeps going up, airlines will look to ways to save on their fuel costs. While the inital investment per a/c is in the millions of dollars, the fuel savings in the long term make it a good investment.