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B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:26 am


How many B737 Cargo operators are there Worldwide.
Out here only Blue Dart Aviation [Owned by Blue Dart Express,which is Owned by DHL]
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:00 am

AS uses 732 Combis on routes within Alaska and SEA to ANC I believe. They have apparently also started a mail run recently for the US Postal Service. I don't know if it is strictly a mail run or also passengers, but it uses the 732 also. They are also converting a few of their 734s to cargo so they can retire their 732s.

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:04 am

After the tsunami, wasn't it a cargo 737 that hit a water buffalo, or was it military?

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:05 am

TNT, BlueBird, KittyHawk, and some chinees carriers wich deliver post at night
 
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:05 am

Channel Express operate 737's configured for quick change operations in the UK:


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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:08 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 2):
After the tsunami, wasn't it a cargo 737 that hit a water buffalo, or was it military?

Harry

It was a civil 737-200 freighter.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:31 am

Has Copa still the B737 freighter(s) ?
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:02 am

Here's a few more;


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Also Titan Airways use a 733 for Royal Mail contract and Yangtze River Express use 733QC

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:28 am

Starting soon Kitty Hawk Aircargo will be the North American launch customer for the 737-300SF, I believe 8 to start with all leased from GECAS.

They currently operate 727-200F's out of their Fort Wayne, IN (FWA) hub:


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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:46 am

You are correct Charlie, we are the North American launch customer for the Boeing 737-300SF. We are also the launch customer for FuelMizer, a flap modification that will increase climb performance while netting a 3% to 5% decrease in fuel consumption. Kitty Hawk is dedicated to becoming one of the most fuel efficient and environmentally friendly cargo operators in North America.

Our 737's are being retrofitted from birds being purchased from Malev, Lufthansa and Easy Jet. We should see them in the U.S. sometime in late April.

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:59 am

This raises the question of whether there has been further news in the Fedex rumour of a large 733F/734F conversion to replace their 721F/722F fleet?

Any updates?
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 9):
We are also the launch customer for FuelMizer, a flap modification that will increase climb performance while netting a 3% to 5% decrease in fuel consumption.

AndrewUber, do you have a link that provides more information? I'm not asking for anything proprietary, just what's in the public domain. I have a feeling we'll be seeing 733's and 734's doing cargo for a long time.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:50 pm

Any Statistics on the No of B732SFs operated around the Globe.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:08 pm

As mentioned above, AS flies 727-200 combi's. Several of them being ex-Markair metal. They recently announced that they will be replacing the 200's with 5 737-400's that are currently in their fleet. According to their website...
"Four of the carriers 737-400s will be converted to a fixed 70 passenger/four pallet configuration. One aircraft will be retrofitted to full cargo configuration." I have flown on an AS 737-200 combi from Anchorage to Bethel and a Markair 737 between ANC and Kodiak. Freight up front and passengers behind the wing with a movable partition separating the two sections. It was weird not having the cockpit door visible from the seats. I wonder if they will have built in stairs to access the passenger section like the 737-200's.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:18 pm

I'm referring to only Strictly Pax converted Total Freighters on the B737-200s,Not the -200C.
How many B737-200SFs [Total Freighters] are available Worldwide.
I know BD has Five.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:03 pm

Quoting N317AS (Reply 1):
They are also converting a few of their 734s to cargo so they can retire their 732s.

Most of them will be fixed configuration combis to meet the FAA's regs.

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 9):
We are also the launch customer for FuelMizer, a flap modification that will increase climb performance while netting a 3% to 5% decrease in fuel consumption.

I am sure WN would like to know that they are not currently using FuelMizer, because they sure think they are. According to the WN people here, FuelMizer has not yet shown the results promised on the aircraft they have fitted with it
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:21 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
I am sure WN would like to know that they are not currently using FuelMizer, because they sure think they are. According to the WN people here, FuelMizer has not yet shown the results promised on the aircraft they have fitted with it

I seem to remember reading a thread here in the last few months about this and if I am not mistaken it said WN would be removing that mod from the test aircraft due to a lack of fuel savings compared to the maint. issues, some flap cable issues and......?.
WN's "fuelmizer" Modifications... (by Silver1SWA Feb 10 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Here is the thread I spoke of.

OPLNguy - any more info?

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:31 pm

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:59 pm

Wow thanks for the info on FuelMizer folks, I've forwarded it to some important people... I just noticed that the letter I have says Kitty Hawk is the launch customer for the "CARGO version" of the FuelMizer. I can't imagine a flap mod being different for a cargo varient - it's probably just another way of getting AvAero in the paper.  Big grin Next thing you know, we'll see the "California launch customer" and the "Washington launch customer".... etc

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:07 pm

Evening,

All though no pics in the database there is still a company here in the US flying hushkitted 732s called "Ameristar Jet Charter".

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:10 pm

Quoting 7H4Guy (Reply 16):
I seem to remember reading a thread here in the last few months about this and if I am not mistaken it said WN would be removing that mod from the test aircraft due to a lack of fuel savings compared to the maint. issues, some flap cable issues and......?.

They have not said they are removing it yet. 737Doctor came on to say that they had not realized savings yet but were sticking through the trial term.
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Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:58 pm

AQ operates the B732QC as well:

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:33 pm

Aloha Airlines operates a few -200QC models, which fly pax during the day, then cargo at night. There's also one cargo run during the day as well. The day flight loads up on the south ramp, while the night runs operates from their hangar.

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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Avianca (Reply 6):
Has Copa still the B737 freighter(s) ?

COPA No longer operates any 737-200, the freighter was sold to Aerosucre.!!

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Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:23 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
They have not said they are removing it yet. 737Doctor came on to say that they had not realized savings yet but were sticking through the trial term.

In the thread I posted the link to above 737Doctor said that "the evaluation period is over and the results were disappointing. The three aircraft will now be de-rigged by maintenance." Now as I do not work for WN, would luv to though  Smile, I can only go by what those who do, or have a very reliable contact post here.
 
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:32 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 10):
This raises the question of whether there has been further news in the Fedex rumour of a large 733F/734F conversion to replace their 721F/722F fleet?

The problem is that they were set to buy a bunch of 733s from WN when WN then decided to expand faster than Boeing could supply them 73Gs. Now, WN is the one looking for used 733s and they can actually offer more money that FedEx because they don't have to spend money on SF conversion. They will likely have to wait until Boeing can make enough 73Gs to satisfy WN's needs or for US to go away and flood the market. FedEx does not want a trickle of aircraft, they want a large number at once

Quoting 7H4Guy (Reply 24):
I can only go by what those who do, or have a very reliable contact post here.

Well, 737doctor is is reliable as it gets, so I would guess that FuelMizer is done. If you cannot get the number one 737 operator, who can you get?.
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:45 am

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 22):
Aloha Airlines operates a few -200QC models, which fly pax during the day, then cargo at night. There's also one cargo run during the day as well. The day flight loads up on the south ramp, while the night runs operates from their hangar.

Actually, the AQ QCs are strictly used for cargo only. They do not fly pax anymore. You can see 3 of them parked on their cargo ramp during the day, sometimes with one in the hanger going through maintenance. The 4th one also flys during the day mostly carrying cargo for FedEx. That's why it goes to the south ramp.
 
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RE: B737 Cargo Operators

Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:52 am

Estafeta Mexico operates the -200 series with -300s rumored to be coming.
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