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What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:49 am

Hello
IM just wondering what is the longest commercial 757 service as in airport to airport non stop,
any ideas,
thanks ,
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:00 am

I know several airlines including Finnair fly to Phuket using 757's from north Europe with a stop in Sharjah!

Also Balair does same from Zurich.

I've even seen a 737-8 NG from an airline from Eastern Europe fly to HKT with stop in Sharjah.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:01 am

Monarch used to use the 757 from MCO back to LGW which was sometimes non-stop.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:02 am

The longest non-stop service is going to be EWR-TXL starting this year on CO.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:08 am

Wasn't there a US domestic carrier using 752s for service to Ireland and the United Kingdom from the US East Coast? AA I believe?

I know Delta uses 752s from JFK to LAX...I'm sure that's one of the longest.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:17 am

i'm thought CO once flew IAH-LIM or SCL or something like that.

There's a seasonal CVG-LGW service, which is 3nm's longer than EWR-TXL.

LGW-MCO may have been a past service too, with a charter airline.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:19 am

I can't find the link to it now, but isn't there a Canadian travel agency chartering Thomas Cook 757's to fly from the UK to Western Canada non-stop? I seem to recall they offered 35" pitch throughout the aircraft in economy. That would put those flights in the 4,000+ mile category--for instance, LGW-YVR is 4,748 miles.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:37 am

How are half of these routes even possible? A.net says the range of a 757 is 3929nm with the P&W engines (Thats the longest range).....

For instance... IAH-SCL is 4600+ mi.... not happening.....

EWR-TXL is 3980.... MAYBE they could make it there w/ good winds.... but what about making it back? HOW???

Now AA had a BOS-MAN flight with a 752, and that is very possible.... but these others.... seems like they will be stopping for fuel quite a bit on the way back

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:37 am

Domestically, these are the longest 757 routes I could find:

SAN-BOS, 2588 miles (AA now flies a 757 on this route instead of a 767)

SEA-MIA, 2724 miles, although I don't know if anyone flies this non-stop, much less with a 757.

MSP-ANC, 2519 miles, NW flies this - is it still a seasonal route?

LAX-HNL, 2556 miles, NW and ATA

Internationally, BOS-SNN is 2,895 miles, which AA will using a 757. MIA-LIM is 2,608 miles

N1120A is correct, EWR-TXL is the longest by far at 3,980 miles.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:38 am

The longest one I can think of was the old Canada3000 flights, Vancover to Syd, via HNL.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:39 am

AA777, the 757's range is 3929nm but you've listed the route lengths as statute miles.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):

SEA-MIA, 2724 miles, although I don't know if anyone flies this non-stop, much less with a 757.

AS flies SEA-MIA nonstop, with a 737
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 9):
The longest one I can think of was the old Canada3000 flights, Vancover to Syd, via HNL.

It had to have stopped somewhere else. HNL-SYD is over 5000nm.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:50 am

Back in '96 or '95 ATA did a charter from DTW / KDTW), USA - Michigan">DTW to AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA non-stop. I flew on the flight that summer. It is 3616nm or 4161miles...no record breaker but very long!

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:08 am

according to current OAG, longest B757 flight is OSLEWR at 3684mi
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:27 am

I know back in the 90's LADECO (Chilean Airline) flew to MIA from SCL with a 752.

AA uses the 752 from MIA to La Paz & Santa Cruz in Bolivia (South America).

AA uses the 752 from MIA to both SFO & LAX (their are 763ER flights as well).
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:29 am

The longest from IND is to SEA with NWA 752's, starts June, 9.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:31 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 7):
A.net says the range of a 757 is 3929nm with the P&W engines (Thats the longest range).....

I really don't see how a plane can have longer range when it is burning more fuel. Also, never believe the A.net stats.

Quoting AA777 (Reply 7):
EWR-TXL is 3980.... MAYBE they could make it there w/ good winds.... but what about making it back? HOW???

EWR-TXL is 3980 Statute Miles. The range of the 752 is 3900 Nautical Miles. EWR-TXL is 3450 Nautical Miles, giving them 450nm of still air range left when flying against the wind. With the tail wind, it is a breeze

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):
Internationally, BOS-SNN is 2,895 miles, which AA will using a 757. MIA-LIM is 2,608 miles

CO does EWR-BHX, which is farther than BOS-SNN. EWR-BRS is coming soon, as is EWR-HAM (which may or may not be a 762) and the aforementioned EWR-TXL is the longest proposed.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:31 am

Quoting ATLhomeCMH (Reply 4):
I know Delta uses 752s from JFK to LAX...I'm sure that's one of the longest.

I would not consider any 757 flight on a route that is dominated by the 737 even close to being on the list as the "longest" 757 flight

CO's EWR-PRG will be by far the longest.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:34 am

I don't know the mileage but I know UA's Saturday only 757 service from DEN to KOA has to be up there!

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:37 am

I know that TZ's PHX-HNL service is not the longest, but the crowded one class cabin made it feel long when I flew them.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting Lrgt (Reply 18):
CO's EWR-PRG will be by far the longest.

Is CO planning PRG service? It would make sense, though, with Skyteam.

Longest I know of:

EWR-TXL: 3458nm
CLE-LGW: 3270nm
EWR-OSL: 3212nm
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:55 am

Quoting Lrgt (Reply 18):
CO's EWR-PRG will be by far the longest.



Quoting GoCOgo (Reply 21):
Is CO planning PRG service?

They are, after the APB winglets get certified and put on more of the fleet.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting NZblue (Reply 23):
United has a once-weekly, year-round, non-stop DEN-KOA flight using a 757-200.

According to the Great Circle Map, the mileage for this route is 3,329 miles, which is pretty impressive considering the "hot and high" factor of Denver International, especially during the summer. This flight is actually longer than AA's BOS-MAN and mileage-wise compares with other B757 trans-Atlantic routes of similar length.

DEN is only hot, and not that hot, for 2-3 months a year. It is cold more often. Also, they have a 16,000 foot runway there (along with a plethora of 13,000 footers). The 752 is so high performance that handles MEX with relative ease, so DEN-KOA is not a problem. BTW, in Nautical Miles, DEN-KOA is nearly 700nm shorter than the longest 752 flight
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:18 am

Some of CO's longest 757 flights using 120 min ETOP's rule:

EWR-LIM 3155 nm
EWR-OSL 3212 nm
CLE-LGW 3270 nm
EWR-HAM 3323 nm
EWR-ARN 3415 nm
EWR-TXL 3458 nm

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:21 am

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 24):
Some of CO's longest 757 routes using 180 min ETOPs rule:

EWR-LIM 3155 nm
EWR-OSL 3212 nm
EWR-HAM 3323 nm
EWR-ARN 3415 nm
EWR-TXL 3458 nm

You only need ETOPS 120 for those routes
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:36 am

Where is KOA  ashamed  ? It's not showing up with the mouse-over?

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:38 am

KOA - Kailua/Kona [Kona Intl at Keahole], HI, US

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:42 am

Ah, thanks!

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:05 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
With the tail wind, it is a breeze

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:21 am

Ladeco (that was absorbed by LanChile) used to fly daily non-stop from SCL to MIA, in the early 90's. That is 3578nm, so it was longer than EWR-PRG or EWR-TXL.


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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
EWR-TXL is 3980 Statute Miles. The range of the 752 is 3900 Nautical Miles. EWR-TXL is 3450 Nautical Miles, giving them 450nm of still air range left when flying against the wind. With the tail wind, it is a breeze

I'm curious whether this is enough range to avoid occasional fuel stops?

While I appreciate a second Trans-Atlantic flight from my home airport I wouldn't want to spend so much time in a narrowbody. But I guess there are enough passengers who don't care about it.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:36 am

People flew DC-8s and 707s far longer distances for a very, very long time.

The 757 is functionally the same fuselage as a 707.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:06 am

HEL-YYZ = 3574 nm on gc.kls2.com. This is an AY charter route and seems to beat EWR-PRG. (3558 nm). I'm open to corrections and checking on the calculations.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:10 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 23):

DEN is only hot, and not that hot, for 2-3 months a year.

It gets HOT in Denver over the summer. The summer of 2002 it stayed over 100 for quite a few contiguous days, and above 95 for most of the summer.

It was scorching.

That aside, the average temperature in July is 88 degrees F.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:29 am

Actually I didn´t quite understand why CO is using the 757 on the EWR-TXL flights and not the 767-200ER. I would feel much safer on that one then on the 757. The costs of the 767 can´t be that much higher then on the 757. The only good thing with the use of the 757 over the 767 is that we have the chance to see a 757 with winglets in TXL someday soon. Delta will fly JFK-TXL with 767-300. It will be great that there will be some other larger aircraft in TXL except of the LH A300-600 to FRA and MUC. I hope LH will fly to the US from TXL anytime soon.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:09 am

I think it's the dinner service, if the airline is actually feeding you. I mean, the attendants have to serve trays to over 190 people crammed in 3x3 seating.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:36 am

Icelandair non stop KEF to MCO on a B-757-200 and they used to fly KEF to FLL several years ago on a B-757-200 non-stop.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:39 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 7):
How are half of these routes even possible? A.net says the range of a 757 is 3929nm with the P&W engines (Thats the longest range).....

Actually I do believe that the Rolls Royce provides better range than the Pratt & Whitney, hence CO using the RR's on their '57 fleet.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:41 am

How long are

LGW-Malabo

and

CDG-Djibouti

Both 757-200 flights operated by Astraeus of the UK.

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:43 am

Quoting Lan_Fanatic (Reply 30):
Ladeco (that was absorbed by LanChile) used to fly daily non-stop from SCL to MIA, in the early 90's. That is 3578nm, so it was longer than EWR-PRG or EWR-TXL.

That is only a few miles farther. However the treads said LONGEST, not FARTHEST. PRG-EWR is against the winds and will be a 9.25 hour flight.

Quoting Columba (Reply 35):
Actually I didn´t quite understand why CO is using the 757 on the EWR-TXL flights and not the 767-200ER. I would feel much safer on that one then on the 757. The costs of the 767 can´t be that much higher then on the 757. The only good thing with the use of the 757 over the 767 is that we have the chance to see a 757 with winglets in TXL someday soon. Delta will fly JFK-TXL with 767-300. It will be great that there will be some other larger aircraft in TXL except of the LH A300-600 to FRA and MUC. I hope LH will fly to the US from TXL anytime soon.

Well the CO's 762's only seat 2 more pax than their 752's, albeit with more of those seats being Businessfirst class.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:47 am

Quoting Lrgt (Reply 40):

Well the CO's 762's only seat 2 more pax than their 752's, albeit with more of those seats being Businessfirst class.

Okay thank you very much !!
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:04 am

At some point MX flew CUN to SCL or to EZE (I do not recall at the moment) non-stop with a 752. Now that a 763ER is used for the MEX-EZE non-stop flight, sometimes a 752 is used via PTY whenever the 763ER has to go through maintenance.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:41 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 6):
I can't find the link to it now, but isn't there a Canadian travel agency chartering Thomas Cook 757's to fly from the UK to Western Canada non-stop? I seem to recall they offered 35" pitch throughout the aircraft in economy. That would put those flights in the 4,000+ mile category--for instance, LGW-YVR is 4,748 miles.

Cheers.

You are referring to the Canadian Affair charter flights. However the YVR and YYC flights are operated by Thomas Cook / MyTravel A332's, not 757s (they woudn't make it). The Thomas Cook 757s you refer to with 35" pitch are used exclusively on their services from the UK to Eastern Canada. I used this service last summer from LGW-YYZ/YUL and was very impressed, so much so I'll be doing it again in June. FYI Canadian Affair will be using 3 TXC 757s this year to eastern Canada with 35" pitch throughout.

All these responses show what a great versatile a/c the 757 is. In the space of a weekend last year I found myself flying one 151 miles from MAN-LHR and then 3563 miles LGW-YYZ. Shame they stopped making them.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:47 am

Finnair have used the 752 on non-stop HEL-PEK - I think that must be pushing the envelope a bit too

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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:49 am

Quoting ATLhomeCMH (Reply 4):
I know Delta uses 752s from JFK to LAX...I'm sure that's one of the longest.

...Are you kidding me... Thats DEFINATLY NOT one of the longest, it only like a 4 hour flight, there are some that are 7 and eight hours...think before you speak dude.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:12 am

For my Cleveland relatives, Continental's 3270 nm flight from LGW-CLE will forever rank as the longest flight ever taken by a group of cramped passengers in a single aisle aircraft ( 757-200 or otherwise), their physical and psychological fatigue increased by having to endure unending braggadocio from friends who had taken a Virgin Upper Class 744 to and from London.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:35 am

Quoting ERJ145LR (Reply 45):

...Are you kidding me... Thats DEFINATLY NOT one of the longest, it only like a 4 hour flight, there are some that are 7 and eight hours...think before you speak dude.

Think before you speak as well. JFK-LAX is a six-hour flight.
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:38 am

Again......

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 32):
People flew DC-8s and 707s far longer distances for a very, very long time.

Over 4 decades in Mainline service around the world. The DC 8 having only a slightly longer service life.

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 32):
The 757 is functionally the same fuselage as a 707.

Can't forget about the 727 and 737 as well  Smile
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RE: What Is The Longest Commercial 757 Service?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:19 am

Quoting Skymonster (Reply 44):
Finnair have used the 752 on non-stop HEL-PEK - I think that must be pushing the envelope a bit too

It is just a bit shorter than EWR-TXL at 3415nm. Remember, HEL is located perfectly for hops to Asia.

Quoting Columba (Reply 35):
I would feel much safer on that one then on the 757.

Why? They are basically the same plane, one wider than the other. They share an exemplary safety record

Quoting Columba (Reply 35):
The costs of the 767 can´t be that much higher then on the 757.

They are, particularly with the 762

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 34):
It gets HOT in Denver over the summer. The summer of 2002 it stayed over 100 for quite a few contiguous days, and above 95 for most of the summer.

It was scorching.

That aside, the average temperature in July is 88 degrees F.

I am from Los Angeles and live in New Orleans. Like I said, not that hot Big grin.
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