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UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:20 pm

It looks like we got the contract to handle B6. I don't know how we won this contract. ATS has most of the ground contracts at PDX. Its good news for us, more work.
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:27 pm

This would be amazing news for UA if it's true. More business for UA means more $ which they need badly!
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:51 am

Doesn't suprise me. Flying from ONT back to PDX the other day I noticed that the JetBlue gate in ONT had UA ground equipment hanging around. Does anyone have a number for how many cities UA does the handling for B6? Is it just a west coast thing?
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:07 am

Originally in Burlington jetBlue used the United gate, but I don't know if they used their own check-in at that point or not.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:16 am

also supposedley UA handles our flight up in SEA too when we changed gates there.

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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:27 am

I would guess that B6's experience with working with UA at JFK when they started up (then kicking them out of T6 Big grin) has made Neelman a fan of UA's work. Good news all around, as B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:28 am

Yes...B6 operates out of the North satellite in SEA, and is handled by UA.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:43 am

I can't help but wonder what the cost per turn is from UA. I'm thinking on avg in these cities around $1300.00
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:11 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed.

Yes, it's a win-win situation.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:13 am

Jetblue does contract out ground handling to 3rd parties including to other airlines at several cities. Here is a list of a few of them.

Las Vegas & San Juan - Delta
Sacramento - America West
Seattle - United
Palm Beach - Worlwide
Denver, Ontario, Tampa - ASIG
Phoenix - Globe Ground
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:44 am

Wait if Delta does B6's ground work at LAS then how is B6 going to handle DH at LAS, I remember someone saying that a while back but I guess it is untrue.

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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:51 am

So then do we know what gate B6 will be using at PDX yet?
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:53 am

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 10):
Wait if Delta does B6's ground work at LAS then how is B6 going to handle DH at LAS, I remember someone saying that a while back but I guess it is untrue.



I heard that too. I also think AA takes care of DH because on LAS's website, it says American and Independence share the ticket counter. I was told though that B6 takes care of DH there.
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:10 pm

We (B6) are taking over the ramp in LAS in May I believe. Ever since I was hired (4/03) there was the constant rumor that we were about to take over our ramp in LAS. Now we are finally doing it. This summer we will be up to 10 flights a day.

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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:45 pm

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 11):
do we know what gate B6 will be using at PDX yet?

B6 will be at PDX late at night, and from my observations UA usually fills all of the E gates with RON aircraft so it may be hard for B6 to find space there. I bet B6 will use D15,which is currently only used once a day for the NW PDX-NRT flight, or it will use D12, which currently is not being used and is operated by the port of portland.
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:19 pm

There is plenty of room on the E-con for the flight. Our red-eye ORD leaves out of one of them. We use four hardstands east of the concourse. We also use four hardstands down at our cargo/gse mx/kitchen area.
 
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:30 pm

UA will also likely be handling ramp work for US in some of the soon-to-be-outsourced stations, particularly the smaller west coast stations like PHX and SEA.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:16 pm

Us Airlines SCHDL SEA

PHL 7:45a 3:39p 6 0 2378

PHL 1:50p 9:51p 106 0 2378

PHL 10:00p 5:47a 112 X6 0 2378

PIT 7:30a 2:52p 496 0 2124

CLT 10:55p 6:28a 518 0 2279

Is the above all the US Air flights aval. in SEA now?


http://www.trvlink.com/download/us/usaschedules.pdf

[Edited 2005-03-20 10:26:39]

[Edited 2005-03-20 10:32:20]
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:25 pm

US is not very small in SEA, I dont see that happening anytime soon at least I hope not and the same for PHX.

US is *absolutely* outsourcing ramp work in SEA and PHX, and 24 other stations. See here where I gave a list of the affected stations.

The only question is to whom US will be doing the outsourcing in which stations.
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:26 am

"It looks like we got the contract to handle B6. I don't know how we won this contract. ATS has most of the ground contracts at PDX. Its good news for us, more work."
"Good news all around, as B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed."



I don't get this line of thinking... to me this is why the LCC's are able to compete... they save money on employees and ramp equipment... and then take customers away from the carrier working their turns...

I think the legacies should make the LCC's pay for their own employees and ramp equipment... and then the LCC's would not have any money to undercut the very people who turn their airplanes.... It just dosn't make any sense to me saying.... but we are able to keep our employees working and we are making side money.... this is just a stop gap... eventually the LCC will eat all your lunch....every time a LCC leaves with 100 PAX... look at it like ...hey those 100 PAX used to fly on us......
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RE: UA Will Work B6 @ PDX

Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:06 am

Lono,

I guess you are not aware of a little airline called Southwest. They handle all of their ramp and customer service. No help from the legacies for them. Those service agreements are mutually beneficial for both airlines. For example at DFW CO handled HP's ramp and customer service. (A legacy from their ill-fated alliance that faltered immediately when HP became a low fare airline) CO's service sucked for the customers and they treated us (when I used to work for HP) employee non-revs like sh*t. I think they failed to realize that our 7 (or so) flights a day kept many of they employed. Finally HP decided to pull the plug and you can guess how the rest turned out for the CO employees with low seniority. It created added revenue for the airline providing the service and allows other airlines to provide service to airports with limited flights. Here at LGB HP provides ramp and customer service (don't let the uniform fool you) for AS. Is this AS's attempt to "eat their lunch"? Or are they just trying to provide reasonable service (without ATS stealing luggage) on their 3 daily LGB-SEA flights?

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