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NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:04 pm

would it have been a better move financially to switch to the 742 instead of retiring those before the DC10? Possibly cutting a 2nd officer instead of having him in the cockpit? Obviously you may be flying more empty seats adn adding more FA's.....but just a thought when i saw this pic
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:12 pm

Not sure what the reason is besides overcapacity, however both aircraft have an SO. It is the -400 you are thinking of.
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:13 pm

i was wondering if costs could be offset by retiring one aircraft family (DC10) and keeping the 742 to match the 744
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:41 pm

I was scheduled to fly HNL to NRT this July on a NW DC-10, but now it has been changed to a B747-200. Is this what you are referring to in the thread title?

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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:42 pm

no, more of the fact of fleet commanality......it would seem logical just from that sense that the 742 would have been saved insteadof the DC10
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:28 pm

Size matters. The 742 is a lot bigger than the DC-10.
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:13 pm

Since when was the 742 the same commonality as the 744? The design is ten years older, the 742 has an older flightdeck, whereas the 744's flightdeck shares more commonality with the 777 than the 742, the engines are completely different, the avionics is different, they are two completely different airplanes.
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:58 pm

So what is going to happen to all those NorthWest 742 and DC10's?
Will they be scrapped or parked and sold to any takers over the next few years?
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:02 pm

Quoting Rwylie77 (Reply 7):
So what is going to happen to all those NorthWest 742 and DC10's?

Boneyard here we come!
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:03 pm

NW will keep any good ones for their own cargo operation. They have added many 742s to cargo in the past 3 years.

Maybe they might even consider using some DC-10s to open new cargo destinations; who knows.
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:33 pm

Quoting Rwylie77 (Reply 7):
So what is going to happen to all those NorthWest 742 and DC10's?

In the unlikely event that the airline industry bounces back, some of these birds would be put back into service. If UA chose to liquidate I bet these birds would certainly get a new lease on life with NW. Now I did say unlikely.
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:11 am

Just curious, how many 742's does NW still have in passenger service. I always loved that old bird.
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:17 am

Now, let's talk about cargo -- can I contract with an airline for a certain type aircraft to carry a specific cargo? If I can, then can an airline resurrect a 'desert' plane?
 
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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:18 am

Quoting Skymileman (Reply 11):
Just curious, how many 742's does NW still have in passenger service. I always loved that old bird.

12, according to airfleets.net.

http://airfleets.net/flottecie/index...&opp=Northwest%20Airlines&app=b747

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RE: NW Switching DC10 To 742

Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:16 pm

Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 12):
Now, let's talk about cargo -- can I contract with an airline for a certain type aircraft to carry a specific cargo? If I can, then can an airline resurrect a 'desert' plane?

If you pay them enough they'll do anything you wish. I have this odd suspicion that the fee for getting one of these birds back from the desert and returning it to airworthiness would be quite steep and as you're specifying that specific aircraft type you'd be the one footing the bill plus a healthy margin as well.