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R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:51 am

Hello,

Well on the 28th of April 2005, another Airport will be opening in the U.K, Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield, and thats when the first flights will be leaving.

I was just thinking, does anybody have any news on this Airport, and how things are going with the preparations over there.

Does anyone know any routes to be confirmed and Carriers to be confirmed, I understand Thomsonfly and Thomas Cook had committed, and Balkan Holidays Air champagne 

Also, how successful do you think the Airport will be? Its has a good position, and I think they are hoping for long haul flights.

Finally, Why is it called "Robin Hood" Doncaster Sheffield, as it's no where near Nottingham?  Confused

* For those of you not sure, Robin Hood is associated with Nottingham.

Cheers, and Thanks for your Help.  bigthumbsup  Ryan

and if I find out anything, I'll post it!

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:01 am

Well the terminal building looks to be coming along great.



As for the name, well I have no idea what the logic behind it is, but Nottingham East Midlands airport were not too happy!

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:05 am

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:07 am

My Mum + Dad live in Doncaster + say all hell is breaking loose as NO infrastructure improvements (roads/trains...) have been sanctioned yet.

I understand the airport has a bloody long runway, though - it used to Fynningley RAF base - is that correct?
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:08 am

That looks fantastic! Can't wait to fly from there! Big grin

Whats with all the long names these days anyway?

-Durham Tees Valley Airport
-Nottingham East Midlands Airport
-Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport confused 


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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:09 am

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 3):
I understand the airport has a bloody long runway, though - it used to Fynningley RAF base - is that correct?

It sure was  

Thanks for the info Horus, lots of destinations to go to then!  

Cheers Ryan
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:15 am

The First Flight to leave is 09:15 TOM*** To PMI.

And then to arrive is Ryannair from Dublin around Noon.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:58 am

The airport wasnt needed. The region is well served by LBA, MAN, HUY and even EMA all within a 1-2 hour drive.

HUY is alreay suffering with a drop in charter flights as many airlines transfer to 'Donny' airport.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:22 pm

Quoting A321fly (Reply 6):
The First Flight to leave is 09:15 TOM*** To PMI.

And then to arrive is Ryannair from Dublin around Noon.

Myslef and 2 other photographers will be onboard the 1st FR flight indo DSA, will be pretty interesting been the first commercial arrival Big grin.
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:42 pm

Heres some additional information.

The ICAO code for the airport is confirmed as EGCN. The IATA code is DSA.


Tower freq 128.775
ATIS freq 134.950

The runway is 2981m long.  Smile

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:27 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 9):
Tower freq 128.775
ATIS freq 134.950

Should be able to pick those up with the distance i am from the airfield, just a shame Thomson dont pay that much or i would move closer to home than EMA.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:39 am

I would think that this new airport will take customers away from East Midlands and Leeds Bradford and Humberside, due to the size of the place an its incredibly large runway which is capable of Long Haul.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 7):
The region is well served by LBA, MAN, HUY and even EMA all within a 1-2 hour drive.

When questions arrive about these airports Long Haul operations, we can also say that Doncaster Sheffield is only a 1-2 hour drive away. Big grin

I think we'll be seeing big things at this Airport.

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Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:43 am

I'm close to the airport (scunthorpe) 20 min drive..

There will be no train link to the station, so im told it will be done by bus. a hourly bus service from doncaster rail station direct to the airport.

I work in the rail industry myself and nothing has been said regarding building a new line to the airport.

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:56 am

Latest News:

According to this website below, ThomasCook Airlines have pulled all the routes from Doncaster / Sheffield!


Thomas Cook Pull Out!
It's up to you if you believe it or not, but I will try to get some confirmation.

Allegedly, its due to poor loading figures!

Well, that's a bit of a blow for the Airport  

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:08 am

Thomas Cook website still selling holidays to Turkey from DSA.
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:37 am

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14):
Thomas Cook website still selling holidays to Turkey from DSA.

Exactly so so they cant have pulled out. Also they are still selling the seat reservation system.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:39 am

Also intresting to see they have chosen a B757, would it have not been better for the A320 to operate for the first season.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:45 am

Quoting A321fly (Reply 16):
Also interesting to see they have chosen a B757, would it have not been better for the A320 to operate for the first season.

Yes, I think it would of been better to put an A320 on in the first season, then there is less pressure then to fill the whole plane up.

It seems TCX are not pulling out of Doncaster then, must be the member on that other forum website, giving wrong information! I will keep you all posted though! 

Cheers, Ryan. And thank you for looking into this for me!
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:01 am

I believe the Turkey flights are operated by Pegasus for Thomas Cook Holidays?
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:13 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 18):
I believe the Turkey flights are operated by Pegasus for Thomas Cook Holidays

Yes they are supposed to be.

But this Sunday Thomas Cook flight arrives before it departs so it deffinatly should be the B757.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:59 am

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 11):
I would think that this new airport will take customers away from East Midlands and Leeds Bradford and Humberside, due to the size of the place an its incredibly large runway which is capable of Long Haul.

What are you on about??? there is plenty of room at EMA and also it has a longer runway than DSA anyway.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting BDRules (Reply 20):
there is plenty of room at EMA

I'm afraid there isn't. The Departure Lounge can get absolutely packed at peak times, and the Baggage reclaim section isn't that big.

Look at the size of Doncaster on their website, I think, no matter how much I like EMA, Doncaster is more capable by the looks of things doing Long-Haul flights.

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:20 am

I read an article a few months ago (as my parents live near Doncaster). Apparently Robin Hood was originally from Doncaster / S.Yorks and most of his "exploits" are in the Doncaster area. I also believe that the boundary of Nottinghamshire is not that far from where Finningley is and maybe, in years gone by, Sherwood Forrest was much larger than it is today.

The name Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield was chosen as it is belived that many foreign travellers (maybe forum members outwith the UK could confirm this) would know that a flight advertised to Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport would give travellers a better idea of the flights' destination that merely saying Doncaster Airport, Finningley Airport, Sheffield Airport or South Yorkshire Airport.

In the days of the annual RAF finningley open day, the railway used to provide a frequent shuttle service from Doncaster to a temporary station at the airport which was rebuilt each year to accommodate the trains. These trains were full to capacity and extra staff were rostered to work in the ticket office at Doncaster (where I used to work) to cope with demand.

There is a railway line which runs along the northern perimeter of the airfield and is currently used for services betwenn Doncaster and Lincoln which run approx every two hours. The temporary station has been long since removed.

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.c...ningley&addr3=&scale=100000&addr1=

As can be seen from the map of the area (from the above link ( you may have to zoom in a couple of times !)) the railway line is the black line at the top. The temporary station used to be where the red road crosses the line (marked LC). From what I can gather, the terminal building is located just to the left of the red circle - but I don't know if any new road will have been built from the red road to the terminal.

I have also read that Market Research at Manchester Airport has shown that approx 50% of all passenger traffic originating at Manchester is from the east of the Pennines (Doncaster, Sheffield, Leeds, York, Derby, Scunthorpe etc etc etc).

This final set of figures indicates, to me, that there is a massive market for RHDS airport and long haul should (pardon the pun) take off.
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:45 am

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 11):
I would think that this new airport will take customers away from East Midlands and Leeds Bradford and Humberside,

Humberside (EGNJ) is almost dead anyway.. There is 1 daily "jet" flight out of there, and they are rumored to be pulling out for DSA.. I remember being down there one Saturday with a unofficial timetable, and it promised a Air Europa 737, 2 Onur Air MD88's and the Britannia 767.. None of them turned up, instead I was amazed to see a Spanair A320.. along with the usual KLM Fokker 50's overto AMS.

Eastern Airways have purchased land on the Humberside side, moving from "Schiphol Way" over to the back of Humberside Flying Club.. How the hell eastern airways survive with the prices they charge is beyond me.. My Company paid £250+ for me to Fly from Humberside to Aberdeen.. just to pick a loco up "urgently".. I certainly wouldn't fly with them internally within the UK, when BA, sleasyJet e.t.c. do flights from under £40.

Humberside, after it was taken over by Manchester Airport PLC  banghead  has been pushed to one side, obviously Manchester is there main priority.. Which is understandable.. But it's certainly been neglected. They are building a new "Super-Hangar" on the western side behind the fire station which they are supposedly making into a new engineering base, creating 250+ jobs.. And accommodating for "larger aircraft".

They used to bring the Brittania 767-200 into there, and with no taxiway back to the apron, they backtrack via the turn around pads at the end of 03/21 and I've seen the 76's struggle, one having to be towed..

Sorry for straying off track, but my point it, humberside is dead anyway, and regardless of DSA, it shall remain dead.  Smile

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:27 pm

Quoting BDRules (Reply 20):
there is plenty of room at EMA and also it has a longer runway than DSA anyway.

not much extra runway length that would make any useable difference - no more than 100m between them.

Quoting Goinv (Reply 22):
I have also read that Market Research at Manchester Airport has shown that approx 50% of all passenger traffic originating at Manchester is from the east of the Pennines (Doncaster, Sheffield, Leeds, York, Derby, Scunthorpe etc etc etc).

This final set of figures indicates, to me, that there is a massive market for RHDS airport and long haul should (pardon the pun) take off.

Well lets hold off for a while on the long haul - give it time to grow. But certainly expected to see the short haul side of things grow quickly.
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:14 pm

TFS, what a load of tosh!

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:38 pm

HUYfan, not necessarily. I have to admit, though, but unless something happens at HUY soon, then I dont think there might be much left there within 5-10 years
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:55 pm

Humberside is growing steadily, why does it have to experience massive growth? The KLM will never move to DSA, and Eastern's route to ABZ is one of their most successful. The list of charter flights is growing all the time. Why can HUY and DSA not co-exist when CWL and BRS, NCL and MME, BFS and BHD, SOU and BOH can do so? For the large majority of pax that use Humberside, HUY will still be less travelling distance than DSA. WHY would pax drive past HUY to get to DSA? The charter side will continue to remain strong, and whilst the scheduled side leaves a little to be desired, the assumption that HUY will not be around in a few years is simply false.

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:11 pm

Whoever said EMA gets packed at peak times is right. The departures and arrivals area is a nightmare, especially in a morning with all the horrid WW departues. Its very uncomfortable in the departures area with way too many folk!
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:35 pm

LBA say DSA will have little effect on it's business as very few of it's PAX originate from South and East Yorkshire. DSA and MAN both take about the same amount of time to get to from Leeds, but from the west of Leeds MAN will continue to attract the PAX. DSA needs to pick up PAX from around Doncaster and Sheffield (funnily enough) as LBA and MAN aren't the easiest places to get to, this is especially the case from Sheffield.

I'll always get fares for flights from DSA, but when I have carried out booking queries in the past for flights to PMI Jet 2 have been cheaper.

Interesting fact - DSA has the capability of handling an A380 now as the runway is the same thickness all the way across. Most runways have thinner edges and are having to be strengthened to accommodate the A380.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:04 pm

Ryanair has now commited to daily flights to Dublin and I wide variety of destinations are now available, The airport manager thinks that flights accross the pond will start in 2006. Who knows the A380 may land there eventually for scheduled service, but for regular visits the airport infastructure
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:13 pm

Quoting Dsa (Reply 30):
Who knows the A380 may land there eventually for scheduled service, but for regular visits the airport infastructure

A good question may be for which airline will the A380 operate into DSA! How secure is EK at MAN? Maybe VS on a charter basis like their recent charter flights from MAN with the A340.

Whatever the airline there is plenty of time for the airport to gain new carriers, whoever expects an airport to be an instant success and have all carriers possible must be mad. Im looking forward to seeing the job they have dont with the airport when I arrive on the first FR arrival on 28th April.

Its great to see a new airport in the region and its definately been a long wait, you cannot really compare SZD with DSA.
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:26 am

Hello everyone,

Has anyone heard any more news about the airport, and also does anyone have any Photographs of the Airport now we are getting closer to the opening date?

Thank You!

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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:36 am

No photos as yet.

Thomsonfly have just anounced lots of new destinations for S06 including Cancun, Dominican Republic and Florida as well as Bulgaria.
 
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RE: R.H Doncaster Sheffield Airport - Any News?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:57 am

Hello,

Quoting A321fly (Reply 33):
Thomsonfly have just anounced lots of new destinations for S06 including Cancun, Dominican Republic and Florida as well as Bulgaria.

I knew this was coming!!! That massive runway looks to have done them a big favour then, it I'll be amazing to fly Long-Haul out of Doncaster instead of Manchester or Gatwick Big grin

Of course, I wonder who will join the line up next? I would think maybe something along the Lines of Charter Airlines operating for the Tour Operators, like Iberworld, Spanair, Eurocypria, Futura, etc..

This is a massive step forward for the Airport, and it shows TUI's dedication to the Airport. Maybe if these Long-Haul routes are popular we could be seeing some more Long-Haul activity at the Airport in the next few years!

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