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SQ MAN-ZRH Bookable - Any Others Similar?

Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:57 pm

I am thinking of taking a non-rev trip on the first sector of the Singapore Airlines MAN-ZRH-SIN flight sometime soon.

Can anyone give any other examples of bookable hops such as this?? I recently read a Phillipine Airlines trip report on the LAS-YUL route (I think), which seemed another interesting one. Presumably this was the second sector of a MNL-LAS-YUL flight.

Any other examples would be most appreciated!
 
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:00 pm

LHR-CPH-LHR and CDG-AMS-CDG on RG.

LHR-FCO-LHR on ET.

MAD-FRA-MAD on LanChile.
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:07 pm

BKK-HKG-BKK on Emirates

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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:09 pm

Quite a number on, say, SIN-BKK, SIN-KUL, SIN-CGK, and other intra-Asia routes.
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:12 pm

ET from ARN to FCO (I am actually doing this on tuesday)
KU FRA-GVA
SV FRA-GVA
TG MAD-ATH
SV MXP-ATH (MD90)

I will think of others

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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:13 pm

Although not on the same aircraft, there is LGW-MAD on certain days with Aerolineas Argentinas - operated on an Air Plus Comet 737-300. This is used as a feeder flight for AR out of MAD. I might consider taking this too.
 
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:15 pm

Quoting Airevents (Reply 4):
ET from ARN to FCO (I am actually doing this on tuesday)
KU FRA-GVA
SV FRA-GVA
TG MAD-ATH

What aircraft types are used on these flights?
 
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:17 pm

ET is a 757
KU 777
SV 777
TG 744 I believe.

What is the price SQ would charge you for going MAN-ZRH ?

Are you going nonrev or regularly booked ?
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:24 pm

Quoting Airevents (Reply 7):
What is the price SQ would charge you for going MAN-ZRH ?

Are you going nonrev or regularly booked ?

I would go non-rev if I were to use any of the flights mentioned. Even though my airline does not have staff travel agreements with all of these carriers, most carriers are okay accepting tickets issued to another carrier if they are endorsed.
 
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:24 pm

Quoting Airevents (Reply 7):
What is the price SQ would charge you for going MAN-ZRH ?

VERY expensive, as it is the FULL fare - no discounts.
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Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:37 pm

Add BKK-KUL on LH to that list, aircraft is an A340 doing MUC-BKK-KUL.
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:14 am

SV (777) FRA-PRG was bookable lastminute on www.ltur.com last summer for something like 170 EUR incl. taxes.
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:14 am

Also

EK095/096 FCO-NCE-FCO 773!

IC855 BKK-SIN A320!

CX713 BKK-SIN 744!

GA829 BKK-SIN 734!

TK060 BKK-SIN 343!

GF282 BKK-KUL 763!

IC853 BKK-KUL A320!

GF150 BKK-HKG 343!

UL422 BKK-HKG 332!

EK384 BKK-HKG 773!

AY091 BKK-HKG MD-11!

CI642 BKK-HKG 744!


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Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:41 am

EI DUB-SNN A330-200/300 normally 3 times a day!
IB MAD-TFN 747-300/400 daily
IB MAD-TFN A340-300 daily
IB MAD-LPA A340-300 twice daily (the later flight can sometimes be a -600!)
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:31 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 8):
I would go non-rev if I were to use any of the flights mentioned. Even though my airline does not have staff travel agreements with all of these carriers, most carriers are okay accepting tickets issued to another carrier if they are endorsed.

Would SQ accept a staff travel ticket ? They do not have an agreement for staff travel with the airline I work for (LH) although in the same alliance. I always wanted to fly on them and would love to do MAN-ZRH if there was a chance.
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:55 am

UK_Dispatcher
- There is no FRA-GVA vv on KU 772 anymore. Kuwait Airways changed to a KWI-GVA-JFK vv. with 340 ...
- TG does operate ATH as a turnaround (M11), MAD goes via FCO using 743/744 equipment

Pe@rson
are you sure that you have to pay fullfare on ZRH-MAN vv using SQ? I'm sure they had specials around earlier, not sure how it is now ...


One of my favorite 5th freedom segments is SIN-KUL or vv. You can use eg. JL, UL, AI and some other carriers.

The segment with most 5th freedom right seems to be SIN-JKT where you have around 10 airlines flying (KL, LH, TG, EK, GF, KU, etc)

some others:
BKK-SIN on LX
ICN-NRT on IR 74L
PEK-NRT on IR 74L
DXB-DAC on IR 74L or 742
MLE-CMB vv on different airlines including EK, L4 and some charters
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:58 am

Quoting Airevents (Reply 14):
Would SQ accept a staff travel ticket ? They do not have an agreement for staff travel with the airline I work for (LH) although in the same alliance. I always wanted to fly on them and would love to do MAN-ZRH if there was a chance.

I think SQ is well known for not offering good staff travel discounts (even to its own staff), but I'm sure they'd accept a ticket made out to LX or BA if a friendly phonecall is made to the right person on station to authorise it.

The carrier I work for does have a staff travel agreement with SQ, but it may only be something like an ID75. Still, its gonna be pretty cheap. I could just get the tkts issued to SQ, but usually I try and do it the cheapest way and get the tkts endorsed.
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:18 am

Im looking at the CDG-AMS leg on RG for june or july. Also had a look at the FRA-MAD with LA but the only way i can find it cheap is by booking it in germany on a return trip. but might wait until my staff travel kicks-in in september and use that!

Who do you work for Ian? Im at MAN, just started with SAS.

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Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:00 am

RG seems to offer really good price for their CDG AMS flight, comparable to Thalys and to discounted fares on other airlines, about 150 euros.
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:36 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 6):
Quoting Airevents (Reply 4):
ET from ARN to FCO (I am actually doing this on tuesday)
KU FRA-GVA
SV FRA-GVA
TG MAD-ATH

What aircraft types are used on these flights?

ET flies the 757 between FCO and ARN most of the time. The 763 is the other type.
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:43 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
I recently read a Phillipine Airlines trip report on the LAS-YUL route (I think), which seemed another interesting one. Presumably this was the second sector of a MNL-LAS-YUL flight.

It was actually the LAS-YVR route. The flight goes MNL-YVR-LAS and back. I read the same trip report.  Smile
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:26 am

Dont book MAN-ZRH on SQ whatever you do...cheaper flying the BA or LX EMB145
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:43 am

going to another part of the world, there are some great options trans-tasman in Australia:

SYD-AKL:
Lan Chile A340-300
Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200 - flew this just a week or so ago
Emirates A340-500 (soon 777-300ER)
Thai 747-300/400

BNE-AKL:
Royal Brunei 767-300
Garuda A330-300
Emirates 777-200/300
Thai 777-200/300

MEL-AKL:
Emirates 777-200/300 - flew this a few weeks ago

MEL-CHC:
Emirates A340-500
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:22 pm

ZRH-MAN-ZRH on SQ booked through a travel agency will cost CHF 150.-- plus taxes.

But SQ is flying only twice a week this route, tuesdays and thurdays.
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:53 pm

Phillppine used to operate MNL-YVR-SFO, before routing to LAS. This was the cheapest flight between SFO and YVR undercurring AS, AC, and UA. Booked in advance the fare could get to as low as USD138 return with a full meal service. Rpyal Air Maroc used to operate a 747 JFK-YUL that was also the cheapest alternative between these two cities. Avianca used to fly LAX-MEX, but without traffic rights.

Other interesting ones that are currently operating are Martinair MIA-SJO and LAB's MIA-PTY.
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:27 pm

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 17):
Who do you work for Ian? Im at MAN, just started with SAS

I was offered a position with SK too, but I'm staying with BD for now, until something with a bit of progression come along. I would have been taking a job below what I do now, but SAS are paying a lot more than bmi. I want off the airport I think - maybe I should start looking at Flight Ops or something.
 
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Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:53 pm

Flights between SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/CGK are a heaven for 5th freedom operators :-

Singapore-Bangkok
Cathay Pacific
Garuda Indonesia
Turkish Airlines
Biman Bangladesh
Indian Airlines
Finnair
Swiss
SAS

Singapore-Jakarta
Cathay Pacific
Thai Airways
Philippine Airlines
Air France
Lufthansa
KLM Royal Dutch
Saudi Arabian
Air India
Emirates

Bangkok-Hong Kong
Gulf Air
Emirates
Sri Lankan
Turkish Airlines
Ethiopian
Kenya Airways
Finnair

Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta
KLM Royal Dutch
Qatar Airways
Emirates
Yemenia
Saudi Arabian

[Edited 2005-03-21 12:59:07]
 
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:50 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 12):
EK095/096 FCO-NCE-FCO 773!

Sure this one can be booked??

Tried on emirates.com but it didn't work, any ideas?

TIA, Michael
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:44 pm

Still a lot from BKK.

BKK-KUL == LH A340-600
BKK-SGN == LH A340-600 and AF A340-300
BKK-NRT == NW A330-200, UA B747-400, AI B747s etc.
BKK-MNL == LH B747-400
BKK-SYD == BA/QF B747-400 and soon EK 777-300ER
BKK-KIX == SQ B777-200

BKK is the real hub of South East Asia!

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