chrisjake
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Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:00 am

i'm hoping maybe i can jog some memories here...

back in the late 1970's or early 1980's i read an article about the commuter airline industry in which the author travels across the USA on nothing but small commuter airlines. i believe he began in Baltimore and ended up somewhere on the west coast while in the middle he ended up "connecting" in some small and interesting places, on some small and interesting airlines.

i would love to read this again, but cannot find the article anywhere. i have to believe it was in an aviation magazine, but i can't be sure. i do remember that it was done in several segments.

if anyone has any info on this article, it would be greatly appreciated.


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spinkid
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:16 am

I'd love to see a proposed route map for such a trip today.
 
A999
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:22 am

It can easily be done on American, Continental, Delta and United regionals.
 
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:58 am

Sounds like an interesting article. I wonder how long the trip would take...?

Any idea what publication (or even type of publication -- newspaper, general interest mag, trade journal, etc.) this popped up in? I'm not having much luck with my library's collection (seems to be quite limited before '86, at least as electronic archives go), but if you could narrow it down...

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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:03 am

I would imagine that in the 70s it would have been a lot worse than it is today. The RJ's of today aren't that bad in comparison, we get pillows, the cabin isn't too loud and sometimes we even get meals!
Don't get me wrong, I still would not enjoy it at all especially the part about no IFE. I'm not saying that IFE is everything but with the horrid pitch, I can't even put my laptop straight up without it hitting the seat in-front of me!
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chrisjake
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:05 am

if i remember right, it was either in a newspaper or an aviation related magazine. i believe it was back in the days of the CAB.

i can only vaguely remember the article. i remember he used aircraft like C99's, Metroliners, and Navajo's and the likes. he passed through Hagerstown MD and i think North Platte and/or Grand Island NE.

funny what the memory comes up with sometimes. i only wish i could remember more.


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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:06 am

Quoting A999 (Reply 2):
It can easily be done on American, Continental, Delta and United regionals.

Don't forget about US. They have a very impressive regional system.

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MaverickM11
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:11 am

"I'd love to see a proposed route map for such a trip today."

You could do that in one stop on UA from SFO-IAD via AUS. ...Or SBA-CLT on UA via DEN....really no big deal these days.
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:26 am

I did PHX-DFW-BNA or CRJ's when DL had the hub still open.

you could do the following:

SJC-SLC 8:50 AM arr 11:26 CR7
SLC-STL 1:00PM arr 4:45PM CR7
STL-CVG 5:35 PM arr 7:53PM CRJ
CVG-JFK 8:40PM arr 10:35PM CRJ

on DL flights!
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:30 am

Quoting Chrisjake (Thread starter):
back in the late 1970's or early 1980's I read an article about the commuter airline industry in which the author travels across the USA on nothing but small commuter airlines. I believe he began in Baltimore and ended up somewhere on the west coast while in the middle he ended up "connecting" in some small and interesting places, on some small and interesting airlines.

At the time that was the exception, now it has become the norm. Seems we are moving backwards and not forwards in this industry.
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sprxUSA
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:48 am

I remember the article, and seeing the route map. I was only 8 or so, and I think it was the publication "Commuter Air" magazine.

The only sections of the routes I vividly seem to recollect was he flew from Missoula-Boise-Reno and then to SF Bay area I think. It must've been Big Sky to Boise and Mountain West or Gem Satte to Reno.

I too would very much like this article too. In fact, I was searching eBay to see if I could find any old Commuter Air mags, but to no avail.

Good luck to you!
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corey07850
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:58 am

I think some of you are missing the point... Of course it could be done easily in one or two stops, but instead it's about taking the "long way" and seeing the country-- Kind of like taking small backroads on a cross country trip instead of hopping on the interstate.

I too would like to see the itinerary for a trip like this
 
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:09 am

Not sure if it is impressive enough, but I deliberately did a turboprop BGY-SOU-BHD-GLA-MAN/LPL-LCY flight last year. It involved a DHC8-Q400, a DHC8-Q200, a BAe ATP, a DHC8-300 and a Fokker 50.

It should be possible to do a flight from Europe's most northernmost airport at Honningsvag in Norway down to Lampedusa island in the Mediterranean sea just in turboprops. There might be a problem on some legs in Italy, but otherwise it would be possible.
 
ahlfors
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:42 am

Perhaps the more pertinent question for the US would be is it possible to go cross-country on turboprops, and if so, how?
 
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:47 am

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 6):
Don't forget about US. They have a very impressive regional system.

You can't do it all on US Airways Express though; their regional system doesn't get anywhere close to the west coast. Even back when Trans States Airlines had some Jetstream 32 flights within California for US Airways, it wouldn't have worked, since it was isolated from the rest of the USX system.

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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:12 pm

Back in the heyday, one could fly American Eagle:

LAX - LAS - Farmington NM - AMA - DFW - ??? - PNS

Too tired to remember the stops between DFW and PNS.
 
sprxUSA
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RE: Cross Country On Commuter Airliners

Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:27 pm

Just looking quick, I can go:
Portland,OR-Moses Lake,WA-Boise,ID-Missoula,MT-Billings,MT-Sheridan,WY-Denver,CO on Big Sky (eff April).
Then Denver-Dodge City on Great Lakes,DDC-Kansas City on Mesa/Air Midwest, then drive to Joplin,MO catch AA Connection thru STL to Memphis, then get stuck there. Actually, I quit looking. But according to Expedia, TSA/AA Conn flies into Joplin. This would be on SWM,BE1,J41.
I bet maybe via ZK thru PIR then XJ to MSP then East?
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